Posted on 03/23/2017 3:39:48 PM PDT by Kaslin
You are absolutely CLUELESS re the history of and historical facts about the education system and syllabus of this nation!
Right after WWII, yes, there was a "new math" introduced ( well, that "new" method was, in N.Y. State ), but though my parents and grandparents didn't "get it", it was how my great grandmother ( who yes, was still alive ), had been taught math, in Hungary, in a Catholic convent school!
Though there always have been some differences in methodology and in some subject, in private, parochial, and public schools, as well as from region to region, until Madeline Murray O'Hare became won at the SCOTUS, in 1963, the Bible was still being used in schools of ALL types and at ALL levels, as was the teaching and instilling American factual history and PRIDE, until the 1970s!
Even though there were CARD CARRYING, STINKING COMMIES, in all levels of education, they weren't the norm or even all that public about their positions, and it was EXTREMELY rare, for those teachers to propagandize students.
Now that you've been educated....please try to keep to facts , stop hyperventilating, and refrain from posting unalloyed. crap
0bama said you can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.
Is it asking too f’ing much to be able to spend the fruits of my labor on my own kids instead of some other poor schmuck and his kids?
Into the eighties the teachers did not propagandize but they taught less and less. If you don't have any history background, school propaganda is unnecessary, you have no tools to sort out what the leaders of society - the politicians- are telling you.
There are good schools, mediocre schools, and bad schools...this has ALWAYS been true. Obviously, you went to a lousy school and your mother blamed it on Dewey.
My mother learned less, in school, than my grandparents had,by the time I was in school, it had been dumbed down some more; however, it still wasn't pushing lefty propaganda, alternate/fake history, and there was NO PC crap at all! Even in college and grad school, the teachers/profs didn't let on what their political leanings were. I was lucky....all of that soon began to change!
I was even taught to write cursive, using a straight pen and built in inkwell and still have almost a perfect Palmer hand.
There have been many crazy, weird, peculiar teaching methods pushed, for the past several 100 years; Dewey isn't the ONLY one to blame! These "new" whatevers have come and gone and now, just keep on getting worse and worse; even in elite, posh, very expensive private schools. And no, home schooling doesn't cure all of the "ills"; there are some nutjobs home schooling too.
I am older than 50, went to public schools prior to high school, learned massive amounts of factual history, geography, all maths, prior to algebra ( which my grandparents and my progeny got, as well as geometry, in what is now called middle school !) and most assuredly more subjects than you were; per your post.
My progeny and their progeny went to/go to private school. They all learned/are learning geography, history, math, and foreign languages!
You only know about your own little life/bubble and NOT anything other than that. You write in broad terms, about a topic you aren't all that knowledgeable about.
You'd be wiser to keep it to your own experience, what little you know is happening now, or yes, perhaps even in the '80s, but that still falls rather short of your opening shot.
Without looking it all up, I highly doubt that you can talk cogently about Rousseau's teaching methods/ideology, nor anything at all about the private English school, whose methods were introduced, into some American school systems, around 1952, which did NOT last long at all, where the children, in grades as low as the fourth grade, picked what topics they would study. But I can. :-)
My wife just retired from a 37 year career as a public school teacher. I am rather up on developments. She has done a lot of tutoring for students whose parents understood that the school system was not teaching anything. And it didn’t start last year. You sound awfully like someone trying to justify keeping his kids in public school.
I NEVER said that public schools are great, that everyone should go to one, nor that I, in any way, approve of recent methods used to teach prospective teachers how to teach! As a matter of fact, I believe that future teachers be taught how to teach using the old "Normal school" methods! And neither do I agree with WHAT is being taught now, in most schools, nor how.
For the most part, a majority of parents have abrogated their parental responsibilities. Learning should begin at home and continue, in one way or another!
Since Dewey was at Columbia Teachers' and at the U of Chicago, spouting his ideas and ideals re teaching, prior to the time when my grandmother, mother, and I entered grammar school, one would imagine, that his methods would have hit, whilst all three generations of us, were in school. They didn't! Neither did they truly "hit" when you came back to the states and attended the lousy schools you did. Nor were they popular, to any degree, in the 1960s!
My disagreement with you, is that you are talking about things you really don't know anything much about, no matter what your mother told you, nor because your wife taught school.
I gave you many examples, talked about two crazy, other than Dewey's methods/ideas, and can go even further; though that would just waste even more bandwidth and bore everyone else, including you, to tears.
I fixed it for Mr. Council President Roger Berliner. Because, as he also said, “Bad things happen.”
As one commentator said yesterday, “Its as if the leftists want us all to die together, in tolerance and diversity”.
>> “do not represent the positive values of our students and school communities.”
>> “The safety and security of every student in our district is our top priority and a responsibility that we do not take lightly.”
>> “Ensuring a safe, secure and welcoming learning environment for all of our students is our top priority.”
Translation: We don’t give a damn about American kids whose parents pay taxes. But we have to say something that sounds like we do. We are criminally insane and self-destructive, but in complete denial.
I think you are correct. But I also think they had additional motives. One of them is to provide a steady supply of underage and undocumented sex partners for elite perverts.
Another is just flat out greed. They sell out to the highest bidder to line their own pockets. No concern about the results, just take the bribe.
One thing that surprises me in all the discussion of this case is the whole “consensual” defense.
If a man is 18 and a girl is 14, isn’t it statutory rape regardless of whether the girl consented???? How can this possibly be a defense?
If it looks like you can’t get a conviction for violent rape because of insane liberal politics, then I say, yes, go down this path and get the thug to admit that he had consensual sex with this girl. Then put him away for statutory rape.
I hope her parents sue the hell out of the principal of this school and every other person who has created and defended the school’s policies instead of protecting this child.
Don't count on it. Liberals will gladly sacrifice their children for the cause. See the parents of Amy Biehl, Mary Jo Kopechne and Nick Berg for examples
Their daughters do not ttend this school. This is just another case of immigrants who believe in the rape fatwa, doing exactly what they said they would do. And these uber lib parents who were for immigrants need to let them move right into their own house. If you believe in something so strongly, take fiduciary responsibility for those whom you claim to believe in..
It’s to late to see something, say something after the rape. But thanks principal Idiot.
Response: Quite true Captain Obvious.
Comment: You had better wake up as you are being conquered and will pay the price all conquered people do.
“If you don’t have any history background, school propaganda is unnecessary, you have no tools to sort out what the leaders of society - the politicians- are telling you.”
I agree totally, unfortunately as far as I can see there are NO young people and very few middle aged people who have even the most basic understanding of history and I include even those who have degrees in history. All you have to do is make a comment while in a group discussion to the effect that this country is NOT supposed to be a democracy. If even one person fails to look at you as if you are an idiot cultivate that person’s acquaintance, he is the only one in the group who is NOT totally ignorant.
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