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Deputies: Homeowner arrested after fatally shooting intruder in shower (WA)
keyetv ^ | April 1, 2017 | KOMO Staff

Posted on 04/02/2017 1:12:06 PM PDT by bgill

The man went inside and confronted another man he found in his shower, deputies said. The homeowner left after the two exchanged words. "He returned home, retrieved a firearm, came back over to the residence and fired multiple rounds into the shower ... killing the intruder," said Mason County Sheriff's Lt. Travis Adams. The homeowner called 911 and told dispatchers that he had just shot and killed an intruder, Adams said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: castlelaw; gunlaw; guns; intruder; murder; texas; washington
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To: JohnnyP

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81 posted on 04/02/2017 3:16:57 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Mears
For heaven’s sake-——read the article.

That's a little too much to ask.........LOL!

82 posted on 04/02/2017 3:22:29 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My once 6 pack abs are now a keg......)
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To: bgill
The homeowner has a problem. He wasn't in fear of his life at the time of the shooting. It was a premeditated act. He left the confrontation, acquired a firearm and returned to shoot the person. That may well get him a first degree murder conviction. Really pool judgement.
83 posted on 04/02/2017 3:22:44 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: mlo

Who knows what the business owner told the cops, but he could make a case that a casual check told him an intruder was likely on premises, he armed himself after this discovery, and when confronted, the intruder became a threat.

Proximity and ability are there, assuming there is no big physical mismatch in the business owner’s favor. I’d wager the cops heard something that makes the intent component dodgy. Even something as simple and natural as saying “get out our I’ll shoot” when you’re blocking the only exit could cause all kinds of legal problems.


84 posted on 04/02/2017 3:25:43 PM PDT by M1911A1 (President Trump. Ahhhhhhhh.....)
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To: bgill

“It’s not clear how long Rosa had been inside the home, but detectives don’t believe the homeowner gave him any warnings before he fired his gun, they said.”

In other words, he is presumed guilty.

He may be guilty. But I really wonder how the police know so much without evidence or testimony.

Maybe the police in the state of Washington are psychic.


85 posted on 04/02/2017 3:27:59 PM PDT by unlearner (So much winning !!! It's Trumptastic!)
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To: bgill

I saw it in the byline as soon as I opened. Maybe they did not put it there right away.


86 posted on 04/02/2017 3:30:31 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Nifster

I don’t think self defense would fly even in TX after leaving the scene of the confrontation. CO’s “Make My Day Law” wouldn’t cover it either in spite of opinions to the contrary.


87 posted on 04/02/2017 3:35:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (President Trump is not a politician.)
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To: Thank You Rush
Beats the heck out of me - nothing about the article made any sense.

Well, actually, he shot the perp as the perp was trying to carjack him in a Walmart parking lot. The newspaper decided to make the story more interesting so they made up the shower stuff.

Just kidding... but possible considering how the media is these days.

88 posted on 04/02/2017 3:35:14 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

They missed the obvious global warming angle.
The guy was in the shower trying to cool off thanks to our feverish planet!


89 posted on 04/02/2017 3:38:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (President Trump is not a politician.)
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To: TigersEye
The guy was in the shower trying to cool off thanks to our feverish planet!

Well, the intruder took a shower lasting longer then 3 minutes so he was wasting precious water... and consuming fossil fuels to heat the water. He deserved to DIE for that!

90 posted on 04/02/2017 3:43:51 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: VanShuyten

Here in Washington state you don’t need self-defense to be justified in shooting them. From the facts so far it doesn’t sound like this shooting wasn’t justified - the guy should have called the cops. Then waited outside to keep the guy around for the arrest. Or - could have made a citizen’s arrest.

In Washington state you can shoot a guy running away from a felony. Breaking and entering is a felony. However, while the law might be on your side, I wouldn’t shoot a guy even if he did break my door and use all my hot water. And some DA might try to make a name for himself and argue that the law doesn’t apply in this case.


91 posted on 04/02/2017 3:44:27 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: M1911A1
"Who knows what the business owner told the cops, but he could make a case that a casual check told him an intruder was likely on premises, he armed himself after this discovery, and when confronted, the intruder became a threat."

The story says he was shot through the shower curtain. To become a deadly threat he would, at the minimum, have to get out of the shower. I don't think this one is that subtle.

The guy probably thought he'd be OK legally because it was in his house, and the media keeps portraying every potential self-defense case as if it's free for all. But he was wrong.

92 posted on 04/02/2017 3:45:57 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Cementjungle

Good catch!

Windmills are green. Windmills chop up endangered birds.

You . just . can’t . win


93 posted on 04/02/2017 3:50:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (President Trump is not a politician.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

No. In Washington (state), but the article is from CBS Austin, TX.


94 posted on 04/02/2017 3:53:30 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Wait a minute. A man in WA finds another man taking a shower in his house and goes home to get a gun then goes back to his house and shoots the man taking a shower and it’s reported out of Texas?

Thanks for clearing that up.


95 posted on 04/02/2017 3:54:16 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: 21twelve
"In Washington state you can shoot a guy running away from a felony. Breaking and entering is a felony."

In Washington you can use deadly force to prevent a forcible felony. This wasn't a forcible felony, and it wasn't being prevented.

96 posted on 04/02/2017 3:54:27 PM PDT by mlo
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To: deport

“When the homeowner arrived on the second property, he told deputies he found a screen had been taken
off the window and the door kicked in. The homeowner went back to his home, got a gun, returned to
the other house and shot the intruder multiple times, detectives said.”

I don’t see the part about the arguing. Maybe if he called 911 before he went back armed to where the intruder was he would have a better case. “Yes I called the 911, but I’m 20 minutes out of town - who knows what the guy was going to do!?”

As I posted earlier, Washington state does not require it to be self-defense, you don’t have to flee, etc. I hope that this guy gets a good lawyer,


97 posted on 04/02/2017 3:55:04 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: bgill

This is why people who can’t carry a gun should at least always have one at home.

If he shot the SOB without leaving to get the gun and coming back he would have been on much sounder legal ground.


98 posted on 04/02/2017 4:04:05 PM PDT by drpix
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To: VanShuyten

Here in Washington state you don’t need self-defense to be justified in shooting them. From the facts so far it doesn’t sound like this shooting wasn’t justified - the guy should have called the cops. Then waited outside to keep the guy around for the arrest. Or - could have made a citizen’s arrest.

In Washington state you can shoot a guy running away from a felony. Breaking and entering is a felony. However, while the law might be on your side, I wouldn’t shoot a guy even if he did break my door and use all my hot water. And some DA might try to make a name for himself and argue that the law doesn’t apply in this case.


99 posted on 04/02/2017 4:08:40 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I agree. I’d have left, called the police, and then staked out the front door with my rotties to make sure the showerchild stayed around until the po-po got there.


100 posted on 04/02/2017 4:10:53 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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