Posted on 04/05/2017 1:19:06 PM PDT by markomalley
At least 58 people were killed in a horrific gas attack in the Idlib Governorate this morning. However, even before investigations could be conducted and for evidence to emerge, Federica Mogherini, the Italian politician High Representative of the European Union (EU) for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, condemned the Syrian government stating that the “Assad regime bears responsibility for ‘awful’ Syria ‘chemical’ attack.”
The immediate accusation from a high ranking EU official serves a dangerous precedent where public outcry can be made even before the truth surrounding the tragedy can emerge
Israeli President, Benjamin Netanyahu, joined in on the condemnation, as did Amnesty International.
Merely hours after the alleged chemical weapons attack in Khan Sheikhun, supposedly by the Syrian government, holes are beginning to emerge from opposition sources, discrediting the Al-Qaeda affiliated White Helmets claims.
For one, seen in the above picture, the White Helmets are handling the corpses of people without sufficient safety gear, most particularly with the masks mostly used , as well as no gloves. Although this may seem insignificant, understanding the nature of sarin gas that the opposition claim was used, only opens questions.
Within seconds of exposure to sarin, the affects of the gas begins to target the muscle and nervous system. There is an almost immediate release of the bowels and the bladder, and vomiting is induced. When sarin is used in a concentrated area, it has the likelihood of killing thousands of people. Yet, such a dangerous gas, and the White Helmets are treating bodies with little concern to their exposed skin. This has to raise questions.
It also raises the question why a “doctor” in a hospital full of victims of sarin gas has the time to tweet and make video calls. This will probably be dismissed and forgotten however.
It is known that about 250 people from Majdal and Khattab were kidnapped by Al-Qaeda terrorists last week. Local sources have claimed that many of those dead from the chemical weapons were those from Majdal and Khattab.
This would suggest that on the eve of upcoming peace negotiations, terrorist forces have once again created a false flag scenario. This bares resemblance to the Ghouta chemical weapons attack in 2013 where the Syrian Army was accused of using the weapons of mass destruction on the day that United Nations Weapon’s Inspectors arrived in Damascus.
Later, in a separate chemical weapon usage allegation, Carla del Ponte, a UN weapons inspector said that there was no evidence that the government had committed the atrocity. This had however not stopped the calls for intervention against the Syrian government, a hope that the militant forces wished to eventuate from their use of chemical weapons against civilians in Khan-al-Assal.
Therefore, it is completely unsurprising that Orient TV has already prepared a “media campaign” to cover the Russian and Syrian airstrikes in Hama countryside against terrorist forces, with the allegations that the airforces have been using chemical weapons. And most telling, there announcement of covering the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian government, hours before this allegation even emerged…….. Seems like someone forgot to tell him that it would not occur for a few more hours before his tweet.
Meanwhile, pick up trucks have been photographed around bodies of those killed. Again, it must be questioned why there are people around sarin gas without any protective gear, and not affected at all when it can begin attacking the body within seconds? Also, the pick up trucks remain consistent to what local sources have said that many of those dead were kidnapped by Al-Qaeda terrorists from pro-government towns in rural Hama.
Also, what is brought into question is where the location of the hose is coming from in the below picture, a dugout carved into the rock. This also suggests that the location is at a White Helmets base where there are dug out hiding spots carved into the mountainside and where they have easy access to equipment, as highlighted by Twitter user Ian Grant.
In response to the allegations, the Syrian Arab Army soldiers in northern Hama denied the use of chemicals weapons today. This is consistent with the Russian Ministry of Defense who denied any involvement in the attack.
The army “has not and does not use them, not in the past and not in the future, because it does not have them in the first place,” a military source said.
And this of course begs the question. With the Syrian Army and its allies in a comfortable position in Syria, making advances across the country, and recovering lost points in rural Hama, why would they now resort to using chemical weapons? It is a very simple question with no clear answer. It defies any logic that on the eve of a Syria conference in Brussels and a week before peace negotiations are to resume, that the Syrian government would blatantly use chemical weapons. All evidence suggests this is another false chemical attack allegation made against the government as seen in the Khan-al-Assal 2013 attack where the terrorist groups hoped that former President Obama’s “red-line” would be crossed leading to US-intervention in Syria against the government.
Most telling however, is that most recent report shows that the government does not deny striking Khan Sheikhun. Al-Masdar’s Yusha Yuseef was informed by the Syrian Army that the air force targeted a missile factory in Khan Sheikoun, using Russian-manufactured Su-22 fighter jet to carry out the attack. Most importantly, the Su-22’s bombs are unique and cannot be filled with any chemical substances, which is different than bombs dropped from attack helicopters. Yuseef was then told that the Syrian Air Force did not know there were any chemical substances inside the missile factory in Khan Sheikhoun. It remains to be known whether there actually were chemicals in the missile factory targeted by the airstrikes, or whether the terrorist forces used gas on the kidnapped civilians from the pro-government towns and brought them in the lorry trucks to the site of the airstrikes. Whether they were gassed by the militant forces, or the airstrikes caused a chemical weapon factory to explode, the gruesome deaths of children, seen foaming in the mouth because of the gas, lays in the hands of the terrorists.
Therefore, it becomes evident that the area targeted was definitely a terrorist location, where it is known that the White Helmets share operation rooms with terrorist forces like Al-Qaeda as seen after the liberation of eastern Aleppo. Civilians and fighting forces, including Kurdish militias, have all claimed that militant groups that operate in Idlib, Hama and Aleppo countrysides, have used chemical weapons in the past. Therefore, before the war cries begin and the denouncement of the government from high officials in power positions begin, time must be given so that all evidence can emerge. However, this is an important factor that has never existed in the Syrian War, and the terrorist forces continue to hope that Western-intervention against the government will occur, at the cost of the lives of innocent civilians.
This is a great posting and thank you. I have been very skeptical in my other posts. But let me put a slightly different spin on this. It is extremely dangerous for Trump to have jumped on this with out proof. He implies that he will actually take some kind of action against the Sovereign Syrian nation even though there is no evidence anywhere to support their involvement. There is no logic to their involvement.
But what is over looked is that the Russians are 100% committed to the Syrian government. Not only have they committed military resources to this but they assured the world that Assad regime had given them all Chemical weapons in 2013 when obama was talking bombing having been suckered into that stupidity John McCain ,who had meeting with known Isis members to plot against Assad for only God knows why.
Russia gathered up all Chemical weapons and took them away.
By Trump now falling for this hoax,he is directly engaging Russia. He is calling them liars. He he is implying they are complicit and he is pissing them off. Why? There is no evidence to support the baseless conclusion. There is no motive— there is no strategic value for Assad and the Russians to use “sarin” gas on what apparently were al Qaeda hostages. Trump needs to SLOW WAY DOWN and actually get some facts before he makes a horrifying mistake of catastrophic magnitude. We have no duty here. Let the UN do this. No dog in that fight. What the hell is Trump doing? I am a big fan but no more wars of aggression based on WMD that don’t exist, particularly with RUSSIA. GET THE FACTS!!!~I assure you this is “gulf of Tokin” bull shit.
Which one of those “western powers” has not stated they want Assad out?
I was thinking the same thing, remembering the Kurd attack photos.
This doesn’t look real.
Did John Kerry write that statement or was in the White House files from the Obama Aministration and they just pulled it out.
Donald Trump supporters like me are not very comfortable knowing that Steve Bannon is leaving his high level position within the National Security Council.
When they wailed about “chemical weapons” in Syria in 2013 Obama talked about but stopped short of military action when a deal was cut.
Are we headed for military action here? I hope not.
sarin gas in open air over a large area killed 58 ? How and where was it released ?
In a closed environment (subway) sarin gas killed 12 in Japan.
I’m sure there’s an explanation...
Some good youtube videos on these false flag islams here ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr_ByQH2QY0
It is a false flag.
People are dead, but it is a false flag.
Someone wants Assad out but is hoping to get someone else to do the wet work for them.
The bombing of the rebel weapons warehouse makes more sense.............
Trump needs to step back and wait for the truth before he makes any statements.........
The 4Chan guys are already figuring out the real location in these pictures.
*** All the other western powers and Israel believe it is real. ***
I am sure they know it is NOT real. They are just playing along with our Deep State Overlords.
I hope Trump doesn’t let them lead him down the garden path.
Israel has a vested interest in blaming Assad since Hezbollah supports Assad. Israel has been bombing Syrian Army bases and positions, recently, IIRC, near Palmyra where Syria has been fighting ISIS.
Trump’s comments at the press conference today with the King of Jordan sure sound like he has bought the argument that the Syrian government did it and he is going to do something (unspecified) about it. Multiple red lines crossed, etc.
Just as stated in the article this was NOT an attack with Sarin (or any other more modern nerve agent) gas. The reason is that the “White Helmets” would not have survived. If you want to know how poisonous and dangerous these gases are see my post here:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3541167/posts?page=43#43
In short: You do not carry victims of nerve gas poisoning unprotected if you do not want to end up in the same position yourself.
So what was it? Some people have said chlorine gas, but looking at the close up photos it does not appear that most of the victims had inflamed conjunctival membranes, and no tears. The reddish colour of the cheeks of a few victims could indicate something like cyanide poisoning. Most likely this was an industrial gas leak (maybe a collateral effect of the bombing) - with a chemical/gas with similar properties to cyanide.
And finally for those who are worried about President Trump’s statement regarding the gassing, please, read Sundance on ConservativeTreeHouse:
President Trump was saying what he did for some ulterior motives. Sometime you cannot take all the fights at the same time.
Posted at FR also:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3541413/posts
Required reading for Freepers of the nervous disposition. :-)
Lots of people in our government are lobbied by people that benefit financially from war, plus the gulf states that want to run a gas pipeline through that territory. Then there are the people that like war for war’s sake like McCain, and the radical Islamist that want to get rid of secular dictators.
That’s what I’m saying. Assad would have no motive to do this now. I hope President Trump hears two sides of this story and is not intimidated by people that would place a Russia connection on him if he even questioned it.
I pray he’s not. He had so much common sense during the campaign on these ME affairs, but all the intelligence he is getting is overwhelming.
*** The reddish colour of the cheeks of a few victims could indicate something like cyanide poisoning. ***
Someone from a medical team in the ME said they thought the victims were those inhabitants of Khattab in northern Hama who were kidnapped by rebel groups fleeing their village this past weekend. They posited the rebels poisoned them via carbon monoxide, then staged their bodies to derail the upcoming Syrian peace talks or the Syrian/Russian gains against ISIS, and it’s allies.
This team said it was definitely not sarin as the “rescuers” were not wearing protective gear. I saw a pic of a man cradling his supposed dead via sarin toddlers. If they had been gassed with Sarin, daddy would have absorbed the sarin through his skin.
I just hope Trump ask the US Military to validate every bith of information he gets from the CIA and other Intel agencies.
This is a War and Peace issue and could lead to a major confrontation with Russia. We can’t rely on CIA/ISIS to sole source all the info.
Absolutely, they would have done so.
Carbon monoxide is a possibility, but the setting (outdoors, other symptoms etc - if true) does not quite tally.
I have read in Swedish newspapers that "international observers" have claimed the victims showed symptoms of nerve gas exposure such as muscle cramps, vomiting, and contracted pupils. In those photos published one cannot see any signs of small pupils, but of course that may have been those victims that were the least affected.
Some observers have also noted that the victims smelled of chlorine, which has then been interpreted that they have been exposed to two different gases. However, the old cleansing powder that was used to decontaminate gas victims smelled of chlorine, so I wonder if that is what they smelled.
Again, unbelievable that none of the rescuers wold not have been affected if these people had been exposed to sarin or any other nerve agent.
Your post raises a key point. All this started in the Balkans in the 90s. It is a power play by Western and Saudi interests using wars, sanctions and propaganda. Syria is the latest chapter.
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