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"March for Science" 4/22/17: A Push for "diversity" in Science. Is it important?
March for Science ^ | 4/21/2017 | rlmorel

Posted on 04/21/2017 10:37:08 AM PDT by rlmorel

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To: henkster

Obviously your plant is racist and heteronormative. You talk as if the physical laws of the universe are immutable and not a mere social construct of an imperialist western scientific hegemony.


61 posted on 04/21/2017 3:17:35 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: rlmorel

1. Lower average math ability in women. This isn’t sexism - I’m a woman who made it through differential equations, linear algebra, operations research and Calculus 3. It was a challenge for me, and many other women dropped out to become business majors. So did many men, but that’s less of an issue.
2. The long hours associated with STEM dissuade many women from starting the career path. This mindset is why women are more likely to work part time with or without children.
3. Have children, and your odds of working in STEM go down dramatically. Why work in a engineering job where they demand 60 hours a week and/or travel when you can work in configuration management, management or some other position for a standard 40? Some proactively pick the career perceived as more family friendly.
4. Men have stronger visual spacial skills invaluable for design. Few women have the visualization skills to be mechanical engineers, and fewer know about industrial engineering, chemical engineering and other disciplines that pay as well but aren’t classic ME.
5. While there is equal opportunity in entry to STEM fields (and often outright bias against men), boys gravitate to construction toys and disassembly of items at an early age, they are more likely to have the interest, skills and expertise to move into engineering. Girls are more likely to love dolls, cooking toys, etc and want to become teachers, doctors, bakers. I was playing with my brother’s legos, and I know I was the exception.


62 posted on 04/21/2017 3:20:28 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

Isn’t becoming a science professor (on a university level) or a doctor essentially a STEM career?


63 posted on 04/21/2017 4:02:07 PM PDT by nycinfotech
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To: achilles2000

Right, you cherry-picked a disgraced black doctor and a white doctor who was a genius. I could cherry-pick and find a dozen disgraced white doctors and the same amount of accomplished black ones.


64 posted on 04/21/2017 4:05:23 PM PDT by nycinfotech
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To: nycinfotech

STEM would be a chemist or biologist.
Medicine is not STEM, and it is heavily dominated by women now, even MDs.
Science education requires an education degree, and that’s overwhelmingly female AND their “dispositions” requirements actively discriminate against conservatives ... and incidentally men due to political correctness.


65 posted on 04/21/2017 5:36:47 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Reily

That peer group dynamic is something I can understand, to a degree.

It is the same handicap faced by a segment of black kids who are working hard and studying hard, and they are castigated for being too “white”.

Apart from the welfare state and other liberal polices, the biggest danger to the black community is the “black culture” of which that attitude is just a part of.


66 posted on 04/21/2017 8:27:15 PM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: tbw2
I agree with all that. Liberals want to treat men and women as if we were exactly the same except for our physical anatomy, and in my opinion, nothing could be further from the truth.

I sometimes think men and women are so different that aliens visiting our planet might think we were two different species.

But I relish the difference, it is the sauce of life that makes it work.

I believe there are things that men are better at than women, and I also believe that women can do some things better than men.

I have always enjoyed this video: A Tale of Two Brains (by Mark Gungor

One of the things that makes it so funny is not just that it is true, but that every man or woman in that audience knows it too (as evidenced from their reactions) from simple empirical evidence that results from living together for years!

67 posted on 04/21/2017 8:38:11 PM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: nycinfotech

I picked the original affirmative action doctor. When you lower standards, that is what you tend to get. If you were to look at black doctors who didn’t need affirmative action to get into med school, their performance is probably similar to others. Bakke, by the way, wasn’t a “genius” and wasn’t at the top of the applicant pool, which is why he was victimized. He was a smart, hard working white guy who had an opportunity stolen. If you read enough about Chavis, you’ll discover that the locals think he was killed by someone in the community - a relative of one of the women who died because of his malpractice.


68 posted on 04/22/2017 7:09:50 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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