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"March for Science" 4/22/17: A Push for "diversity" in Science. Is it important?
March for Science ^ | 4/21/2017 | rlmorel

Posted on 04/21/2017 10:37:08 AM PDT by rlmorel

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To: rlmorel

Science is open to all, regardless of all the politically correct categories. Problem is, scientific endeavors have a hard time carrying a non-performer on the team. If you think that Newton’s science is no good because he wasn’t the right kind of PC category, you will not do well on a project.

There is science. You can’t put a racial adjective before it, like “black science.” Or a reproductive strategy category, like “gay science.”

Math is at the basis of all sciences. If you have creative ideas about math you won’t make it in science.

In other words, affirmative action in science doesn’t work very well. Obviously there are affirmative action promotions and hires, but they are easily recognized as failures.

Responding to this: “Diverse science teams outperform homogeneous teams and produce broader, more creative, and stronger work.”
Since science teams don’t discriminate, and welcome anyone who can perform to their rigorous standards, there will be people from all backgrounds on the team, in other words, they will be “diverse” without any help from anyone.


21 posted on 04/21/2017 10:59:21 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Islam, not a religion, primarily a totalitarian political ideology aiming for world domination.)
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To: rlmorel

Who is against science. It has changed the world. We discover the atom and we have cheap power and tremendous bombs. Someone invents the laser and we end up with pointers, dvd player and efficient headlights.

And then there is medicine...

But I’m no fan of politicized junk science. It is anathema to real science.


22 posted on 04/21/2017 11:02:20 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: rlmorel

Saw this advertised on the Society for Neuroscience website. When I joined in the dark ages, it was a highly respected organization. In the last 25 years,it has been taken over by extreme left wing radicals.


23 posted on 04/21/2017 11:10:26 AM PDT by oldsicilian
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But the Chemistry Dept. is full of Chinese women and the computer science dept is full of Indians and Chinese and Jews.
Isn’t that already nearly 100% diverse? Oh, I see there are no black women who they can control in science. They’re having trouble forcing white scientists to lie about global whining. I see. We need some mulatto pseudo scientist to trick into lying to the public.


24 posted on 04/21/2017 11:18:50 AM PDT by jr3000
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To: rlmorel

Actually, a diverse mix of stupid people and intelligent people is sure to give you good results; better than if they were all intelligent. At least that’s the consensus (amongst the stupid).


25 posted on 04/21/2017 11:22:10 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

LOL, I don’t have time to jump back into my lunchtime thread, but...I will say that I agree with you, if you substitute “people with commonsense” for “stupid people”!


26 posted on 04/21/2017 11:31:37 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I suspect that a lot of people on here feel exactly as I do about the word “diversity”.

It used to be useful...it was good, it had positive connotations with it. Diversity in opinions, approaches, findings, etc.

Now, just hearing the word “diversity” has all negative connotations.

When I hear diversity (even in the correct context) I think ignorance, emotion, tyranny, incompetence, lowered standards.


27 posted on 04/21/2017 11:36:40 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: rlmorel

Sounds like a movement to make science fit into the self-created reality du jur ...


28 posted on 04/21/2017 11:37:16 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Mr. Douglas
"Who is against science?"

The left would say "Who is against DIVERSITY IN science" with the same intent they say "Who is against doing what is right for the children?"

29 posted on 04/21/2017 11:40:24 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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My son graduated from Purdue with his Chem E in 2015. His commencement ceremony was all Engineering disciplines. A few women, some African blacks, and lots of Asians. Very few American blacks, and none of them in Chemical, Nuclear, Electrical and Computer, or Aeronautical/Aerospace disciplines. The math in most of tbose fields is brutal, and the math does not care about “diversity.”


30 posted on 04/21/2017 11:50:16 AM PDT by henkster (Orwell, Rand and Huxley would not be proud of our society, but they'd have no trouble recognizing it)
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To: rlmorel
If it walks like a duck ...

This is just more lib/commie claptrap. That is my unbiased scientific analysis, something you won't get at the rallies.

31 posted on 04/21/2017 11:50:19 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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Previous articles about this march...

Scientists To Rally On Earth Day To Protest Trump Cuts, Views

Unionized Scientists March in Protest of Attacks on Science and Jobs

32 posted on 04/21/2017 11:58:48 AM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: henkster

That sounds about right...I have a BS in Chemistry, and taking Physical Chemistry was at the extreme margins of what I was capable of understanding...that was hard enough for me.

I have never, ever understood this concept of trying to push women (or anyone else) into the STEM fields. Why? Just to have them there? They make a big deal about women being underrepresented because they are “discouraged” from entering those fields, but when I was in school decades ago, I didn’t see any discouragement going on.

I think there are many people who want to see something a certain way, so they use pretzel logic to make it “true” in their heads.

Those are not people I want engaged in “science”.


33 posted on 04/21/2017 11:59:56 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: TigersEye

Thanks! I am going back to those links later to vacuum some of the cartoons there...

I was unaware of this march. It did not surprise me that I got this email with the link from a given person, she completely seems the type who would think this event is a great thing.


34 posted on 04/21/2017 12:05:07 PM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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If you are a Chemical Engineer and you get the temperature/pressure controls set wrong, the plant blows up. It doesn’t take into account your age, sexual orientaion, gender, gender identity or skin color. It still blows up just the same.


35 posted on 04/21/2017 12:05:50 PM PDT by henkster (Orwell, Rand and Huxley would not be proud of our society, but they'd have no trouble recognizing it)
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To: rlmorel

To be honest, they might be different marches. I just jumped on it to get those links in here. Somehow I doubt that there are multiple “science marches” going on simultaneously though.

The very term “unionized scientist” strikes me as unscientific.


36 posted on 04/21/2017 12:10:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: rlmorel

This is a march for Lysenko-ism, nothing less.


37 posted on 04/21/2017 12:14:41 PM PDT by Bayan
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To: rlmorel

Nothing more than a Man Made GloBULLchit March.


38 posted on 04/21/2017 12:47:59 PM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: rlmorel

Except they have no interest in real Science. They have aninterest in wrapping their emotion based poltical dogma in a fake claim of “science” to silence any honest discussion of the utter lack of actual scientific validation for their infantile absurd pseudo science opinions.


39 posted on 04/21/2017 12:52:36 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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And the science that statement is based upon is...where?

Same question for you. Where are the facts to back up the opinions?

40 posted on 04/21/2017 12:54:03 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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