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The 'March For Science' Shows How Carl Sagan Ruined Science
The Federalist ^ | April 21, 2017 | Robert Tracinski

Posted on 04/22/2017 9:23:03 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew

I am a Carl Sagan fan from way back. His 1980 TV miniseries “Cosmos” hit me at just the right age and inflamed a lifelong love of science. But we’ve had nearly 40 years to assess the long-term effects and see how Sagan unwittingly contributed to a trend that muddled public understanding of science. This weekend’s so-called “March for Science” is a perfect example of what went wrong.

All you really need to know about the “March for Science” is that it is scheduled for Earth Day. The organizers may say the march is nonpartisan and has a variety of goals, but it’s mostly just about global warming. It’s not just about whether global warming is actually happening, or whether it is caused by human activity, but about a specific political program for dealing with global warming.

To be sure, there are other goals involved in the march and some contention, even among the organizers, about the extent to which the march should embrace causes like “diversity.” So the goals run the gamut from the left to the far-left. And that’s the problem. The “March for Science” is an attempt to equate the Left’s political goals with Science Itself, claiming the intellectual and moral authority of science for the Left’s agenda.

You can see why they would want to do that. . . .

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: environmenalism; propaganda; sagan; science
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To: Telepathic Intruder
"If it was a real march for science, they’d go in a circle."

No...real science is a spiral. Saganized science is a circle.

41 posted on 04/23/2017 5:48:07 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Besides being an abuser and murderer, he was a first class scam artist as well, before he murdered his girlfriend, from what I remember from reading a book about his crime.


42 posted on 04/23/2017 5:49:43 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("A is A. A thing is what it is." Ayn Rand)
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To: srmorton

It’s “normalizing”; taking a concept and sinking it into the psyche so it becomes part of the thought process. It’s done repeatedly and the child or adult come to accept the concept as normal.


43 posted on 04/23/2017 6:16:08 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("A is A. A thing is what it is." Ayn Rand)
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To: proust
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof"

Said comment is, in fact, anti-science in the extreme. Replicated experimental data is all that is required for ANY question of science, all previous existing data and theory notwithstanding.

44 posted on 04/23/2017 7:04:31 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: SaveFerris

Based on, and much better than, Sagan’s book Contact. A great film from Robert Zemeckis.

Cheers,
Jim


45 posted on 04/23/2017 7:14:54 AM PDT by gymbeau (America...already becoming great again, and thank goodness!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
All anyone needs to know about Carl Sagan can be learned in Ginenthal's Sagan and Velikovsky.

Here's the first paragraph of one of the reviews at Amazon:

This book is a blow-by-blow account of how Carl Sagan systematically misrepresented Velikovsky, and used the full weight of his reputation and position within the establishment to complete the work of suppression begun over two decades earlier by Harlow Shapley and Cecilia Payne-Gaposchkin. The sheer hypocrisy, dishonesty and self-regard of Sagan is brutally exposed for all the world to see. Unfortunately, for Sagan fans and true believers, the book will be so unpalatable that they might not get beyond the first few pages. Indeed, I would venture to suggest that almost none of the critics of this book, who have here given it a one-star rating on Amazon, have actually read it. The very act of reading it would dispel all notions one might have had of Sagan's nobility and intellectual honesty. He was a fraud and, in some respects at least, a bully. He was also a very poor scientist, as Ginenthal demonstrates in literally dozens of ways.

46 posted on 04/23/2017 7:35:13 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Enchante







Mugshots Of The Balanced, Well-Adjusted Hippie,
Ira Einhorn

47 posted on 04/23/2017 7:55:57 AM PDT by Clearly Right (Except when I'm driving, which I tend to do on the left side of the vehicle.)
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To: gymbeau

Still not based on any actual reality ever proven.

Cheers.


48 posted on 04/23/2017 8:16:05 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: cynwoody

Arlen Specter still amazes me what a scumbag he was.

When I saw him pimping and lying for ObamaScare...


49 posted on 04/23/2017 8:21:17 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Re: Evidence
I was echoing yesterday’s ERF day meme.

Repeated by many speakers at DC.

“We are scientists, we all should believe in science, it will cure all the problems, and we have evidence.”

Then I note the article about the comet that hit the earth. We found diamonds therefore comet dust cooled the earth. No you were wrong, you found graphine and a glacial lake flowed into the oceans and messed up all the warm currents. No, we really did find diamonds, you are misstating things.

This is a consensus?


50 posted on 04/23/2017 8:36:50 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: Wonder Warthog

No...real science is a spiral.
= = =

No, that is a duck penis.


51 posted on 04/23/2017 8:39:32 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: Fester Chugabrew

to which the march should embrace causes like “diversity.”
= = =

I saw some of the crowd on the broadcast of DC ERF day.

One of the speakers mentioned diversity, in the context of broad variety of plants and animals, and some glazed-eye, open-mouth chick in the audience nodded her head at the word diversity.


52 posted on 04/23/2017 8:42:44 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: Wonder Warthog
"No...real science is a spiral"

Well in any case, the purpose of science is test theories based on observation, experimentation, and empirical data. They never become "settled science" like liberals claim global warming is. "Consensus" is incompatible with the scientific method and actually slows progress down. Groupthink is for politics while science relies on skepticism more than anything. Did Copernicus just bow to consensus when everyone else said the sun went around the earth?
53 posted on 04/23/2017 10:02:45 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: 2banana

There is a tragicomic scene in Lucifer’s Hammer where two astronauts are arguing if we are going into an Ice Age or global warming. One of them is convinced we’re going into an Ice Age, forestalled by burning oil ... and the horror is that we’re running out of oil.


54 posted on 04/23/2017 10:57:43 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: ifinnegan

Under the pseudonym “Mr. X”, he contributed an essay about smoking cannabis to the 1971 book Marihuana Reconsidered.


55 posted on 04/23/2017 11:28:50 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

Oh.

Lester Grinspoon. I remember his Reconsidered books.

Thanks for the infom


56 posted on 04/23/2017 12:20:44 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: 2banana

Sagan Wrecked Paranormal research in many Universities—closing down ESP Labs and discharging real researchers because be branded them a “Pseudoscience” . Dr. Thelma Moss was doing great research until she was let go out of UCLA. He set back Paranormal research 20 years.


57 posted on 04/23/2017 1:56:24 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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