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New Orleans Starts Tearing Down Confederate Monuments, Sparking Protest
nbcnews.com ^ | 4/24/2017 | unknown

Posted on 04/24/2017 5:49:29 AM PDT by rktman

New Orleans officials removed the first of four prominent Confederate monuments early Monday, the latest Southern institution to sever itself from symbols viewed by many as a representation racism and white supremacy.

The first memorial to come down was the Liberty Monument, an 1891 obelisk honoring the Crescent City White League.

Workers arrived to begin removing the statue, which commemorates whites who tried to topple a biracial post-Civil War government in New Orleans, around 1:25 a.m. in an attempt to avoid disruption from supporters who want the monuments to stay, some of whom city officials said have made death threats.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; bluezones; dixie; heritagenothate; historyerased; monuments; nola; purge
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To: jmacusa

I grew up in Alabama and definitely sympathize with the South in these matters. However, I like all I know in my southern family, harbor no hate for “Yankees.” Like most on FR, our hatred is for liberals. The current cold civil war is not bound by regions of the country and pits liberal cities (North and South) vs. suburban/rural Americans.


41 posted on 04/24/2017 7:09:33 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: C210N

Joining?


42 posted on 04/24/2017 7:09:43 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: DiogenesLamp
The North didn't go to war to free the slaves Lampster. The South sure went to war to keep though. And they lost. The Confederacy were a bunch of Democrat losers. Only a moral idiot like you would go on carrying a torch for a bunch of f***ing treasonous morons who started a war they couldn't hope to win. Jeff Davis is one of the main reasons the South was doomed. In short the man was as dumb as you. Davis and Lee could have ended the war after the Souths drubbing at Gettysburg but they continued the slaughter for another two years. Lincoln would have been well within his right to hang the two of the sons of bitches but in the interest of ‘’binding up the nations wounds’’ and political expediency he choose not to.
43 posted on 04/24/2017 7:16:45 AM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: rktman

I live in Metairie and our church is full of black church goers. We love each other and they love our church. Of course there are pockets of generational poverty that are problematic but that is because New Orleans has not addressed that issue. The city council should all be fired along with the mayor. Our church brought property in one of the poverty areas and we are starting a community center and eventually a trade school and all sorts of out reach programs to help them better themselves. We are doing it - not the City. Like I said we are a melting pot community. But the left hates when people get along. It doesn’t follow the Marxist agenda.


44 posted on 04/24/2017 7:17:53 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: ohioman
The Confederacy was a Democrat creation technically making them liberals.
45 posted on 04/24/2017 7:18:28 AM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

And yet, I’ll wager that you know folks who will NOT ever leave the city. I’ve known quite a few.


46 posted on 04/24/2017 7:19:46 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

And who ordered Southerners to fight Lampster? Lincoln?


47 posted on 04/24/2017 7:21:25 AM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: cincinnati65

No more legitimate than the “black bloc” rioters.


48 posted on 04/24/2017 7:22:00 AM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: rktman

New Orleans has become a tourist attraction and many minorities work and vacation there. So They must believe this will help the economy of a once great city.

But may from the south will find other destinations after reading this report. I for one will avoid the location.

Ops4


49 posted on 04/24/2017 7:23:34 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord)
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To: Rummy2

After these monuments have been removed for a likely-to-never-be-built museum, what Confederate monuments will remain untouched?


50 posted on 04/24/2017 7:24:06 AM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: jmacusa

And yet, FIVE SLAVE STATES remained in the UNION, and the Indian tribes from Canada to Mexico went on the warpath against the UNION at that time. Only the Pawnee and a few members of the other tribes remained loyal to the UNION.

When Chivington raided the village at SAND CREEK he believed he was attacking “RED REBELS” and even captured two Confederate agents in the Cheyenne camp.

Will Chivington and “The Massacre at Sand Creek” now be “reconstructed” as a heroic battle against Confederate Indians and slavery?
Just for the record, as late as 1885 the US Cavalry were still freeing slaves, mostly other tribesmen, whites and Mexican slaves, from the Indians.


51 posted on 04/24/2017 7:26:33 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ("You know Caligula?" --- "Worse! Caligula knows me!")
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To: Original Lurker

just like white males here in Southern California....


52 posted on 04/24/2017 7:40:48 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: rktman

Oh, yeah- there are tons of STUPID people who will remain in the hole that is N.O. until they take their last breath-but I don’t know any. I have no family left in Orleans parish-and none who would ever go back. Born and raised there I cannot understand the affection/addiction some have.


53 posted on 04/24/2017 7:44:11 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You’re kind of all over the map. Whats your point?


54 posted on 04/24/2017 7:50:19 AM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Yup. I knew folks that would rather be unemployed than take a job opportunity guaranteed someplace else. Don’t understand that mind set.


55 posted on 04/24/2017 7:50:22 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman
Just curious, but if we all looked at the racial problems in the USA today, and were suddenly transported back to 1861, how many of us would volunteer to put our life on the line, join the UNION army to "Free the slaves"?


56 posted on 04/24/2017 7:56:57 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ("You know Caligula?" --- "Worse! Caligula knows me!")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Well, a lot of my ancestors from upstate NY joined the union army. Maybe I’ll get a pass on the reparations thing. LOL!


57 posted on 04/24/2017 8:01:22 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: jmacusa

Need a road map?

The Indian tribes joined the Confederacy and went to war, from Canada to Mexico. Would you also attack them with the same vigor as the North did the Confederacy?
The Indians continued their war against the Union long after the Civil War was over.

This is a subject many do not want to face.


58 posted on 04/24/2017 8:02:09 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ("You know Caligula?" --- "Worse! Caligula knows me!")
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To: jmacusa
The North didn't go to war to free the slaves Lampster. The South sure went to war to keep though.

You keep saying that, but this is factually incorrect. According to the North, Slavery wasn't under any threat, so your claim doesn't even make sense on the face of it.

The South went to war because the North invaded them. For nearly two years Lincoln reassured them that they could keep slavery so long as they recognized the authority of Washington D.C. to control their trade and finances.

The reason you keep bringing up the slavery issue is because you've got absolutely no moral justification for the invasion absent the false claim of "the war was over slavery."

The bloodshed of 750,000 people has to be justified somehow, and "Money" doesn't sound so good as a justification. People would rather believe they fought for some moral reason beyond just power and greed.

Unfortunately, the truth appears to be that the war was fought over power and greed.

59 posted on 04/24/2017 8:02:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: jmacusa
And who ordered Southerners to fight Lampster? Lincoln?

Indirectly, yes. Had Lincoln not sent his forces to invade, the Southerners would not have had to defend their states.

60 posted on 04/24/2017 8:03:32 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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