Posted on 05/01/2017 3:39:29 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
US President Donald Trump has stirred debate by asking why the American Civil War happened, and pondering whether it could have been "worked out".
In a radio interview, he suggested the conflict might have been avoided if President Andrew Jackson had still been in office.
The 1861-65 Civil War between the northern and southern states was principally caused by slavery.
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Many southern politicians disagreed, believing that the Federal fugitive slave law should preempt states' rights.
Thereupon the southern states seceded in order to form a new federal government of their own, under which states were not free to make their own laws regarding slavery.
So yes! the Civil War originated as a states' rights issue. It's just that the north was the pro states' rights side........
Damn straight, and I grow weary of those who call themselves supporters of a "Free Republic" while making excuses for hereditary chattel slavery.
Don’t tell Keff Davis and his boys that. Their declaration specifically states that the secession was about slavery
Ever heard of the 13th Amendment?
Slaves caused The Civil War. I knew it.
And that’s why the Confederates opened fire on Fort Sumter?
The North went to war to preserve the Union and won. The South went to war to preserve an economic system based on the use of slave labor and lost everything.
He may have been reading up on his Jackson lately. What numerous cities, and possibly soon the state of California, are doing with regard to sanctuary cities is tantamount to nullification. It will be interesting, that’s for sure.
Damn straight, and I grow weary of those who call themselves supporters of a “Free Republic” while making excuses for hereditary chattel slavery.
interesting point; I don’t think they excuse chattel slavery so much as they wish to protect ancestral legacy...and in this regard I sympathize, as the memory of many fine Southerners is being slandered with the broad brush of history revision...
Which specific “states rights”?
That was AFTER the civil war. I’m talking about prior to war.
The number I’ve been hearing recently is more like 750,000, the vast majority of whom died of camp diseases. And you’re right - it certainly wasn’t worth it, not least of all for the harm it did to the overall American culture that still resonates today. Not to mention that it settled by force a matter of law that should have been settled by debate (the right to secede from the Union).
I suggest that you might read Freeing slaves.enslaving free men.
They couldn't do it prior to the war since Lincoln wasn't president. But regardless, before, during, or after the war it took a Constitutional amendment to end slavery. A law couldn't do it.
Well, Andy certainly opposed nullification, so he would have opposed secession too. Still, I'm not a big Jackson fan since he founded the party that has become "the never-ending source of all our national afflictions." And Jacksonian Dems were every bit as crooked as their modern descendants.
Of course, Jackson would have been in his nineties and beginning his eighth consecutive term by the time the Civil War happened (and he died in 1845), so I have no idea where Trump is going with this.
The war of Northern Agression was fought because the Confederate States wanted out of the United States.
OK, and why exactly did they want out of the Union...?
The War of Southern Rebellion was fought because the south had a hissy fit over losing an election. Dhimmicrats acting like sore losers then; dhimmicrats acting like sore losers now.
The South applied the right principle to the wrong reason and thus forever discredited the principle.
The South applied the right principle to the wrong reason and thus forever discredited the principle.
good point...
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