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To: DarkSavant
Not what I said. I would also debate it was theft.

What would you call it then? And why were obligations magically done away with just by walking out? The debt was run up when the state was a part of the Union. Property was owned by the federal government or, if you want to look at it another way, by the states collectively. What magically transferred ownership, without compensation, to the states that were leaving?

Yes. If the North thought they wanted financial restitution from the South, they could have come to them with it. Instead, it was belligerence and war.

Ah, I see. And we're supposed to believe that the Confederacy was interested in paying after the fact when they weren't interested in paying before leaving?

Tell you what. Turn over your house to me, plus your car and all your furnishings. Sign them over to me and once you do that we'll discuss payment. I'll give you a fair price, I promise. Deal?

They didn't. The North stated plainly they had no intention of a peaceful succession.

Nonsense to both. The South did start the war by firing on Sumter. And prior to that the North had done nothing to indicate any hostile intent. Unless you can point it out to me.

164 posted on 05/02/2017 7:21:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/review/ft-sumter-the-first-act-of-aggression/

South Carolinians were becoming more and more alarmed as the weeks went on, especially due to the fact that Lincoln had delivered in his First Inaugural Address what the seceded States regarded as a Declaration of War:

No State upon its own mere motion can lawfully get out of the Union; that resolves and ordinances to that effect are legally void, and that acts of violence within any State or States against the authority of the United States are insurrectionary or revolutionary, according to circumstances.

There's plenty more in the link.
166 posted on 05/02/2017 7:33:33 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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