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Chimps are not people, cannot be freed from custody: New York court
reuters ^ | Jun 8, 2017 | Jonathan Stempel | NEW YORK

Posted on 06/08/2017 5:10:47 PM PDT by mdittmar

Chimpanzees do not deserve the same rights as people, a New York state appeals court unanimously concluded on Thursday, as it refused to order the release of two of the animals to a primate sanctuary.

The 5-0 decision by the Appellate Division in Manhattan is the latest defeat for the Nonhuman Rights Project and its lawyer Steven Wise in a long debate over whether caged chimpanzees are actually legal "persons" entitled like humans to bodily liberty.

Citing experts like British primatologist Jane Goodall, the Nonhuman Rights Project said chimpanzees and humans share many behavioral, cognitive and social capabilities.

It said this entitled chimpanzees to many of the same rights, and sought "habeas corpus" relief to win freedom for Tommy and Kiko, each held by a private owner in upstate New York.

But the shared capabilities "do not translate to a chimpanzee's capacity or ability, like humans, to bear legal duties, or to be held legally accountable for their actions," Justice Troy Webber wrote for the appeals court.

"While petitioner's avowed mission is certainly laudable, the according of any fundamental legal rights to animals, including entitlement to habeas relief, is an issue better suited to the legislative process," Webber wrote.

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Well,I'm no lawyer,or Judge.

I always thought that to have rights,you must be able to respect the rights of others.

Here's an old song I like;)

Ray Stevens - The Mississippi Squirrel Revival

1 posted on 06/08/2017 5:10:48 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

So, it starts...


2 posted on 06/08/2017 5:13:12 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Civil Rights movement compared content of their character to skin color and chose the latter)
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To: mdittmar

Soylent Green — now with more chimps.


3 posted on 06/08/2017 5:16:18 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: mdittmar

Habeas Chimpus?


4 posted on 06/08/2017 5:17:13 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: mdittmar
Not people?


5 posted on 06/08/2017 5:17:42 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Steely Tom

lol!


6 posted on 06/08/2017 5:18:15 PM PDT by mdittmar
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My lawyer has to see this...


8 posted on 06/08/2017 5:21:26 PM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: mdittmar

I wonder if they quoted Heinlein in the legal arguments:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Was_a_Man


9 posted on 06/08/2017 5:23:07 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: mdittmar

Amazing, this even got to a court of law...


10 posted on 06/08/2017 5:23:12 PM PDT by Popman
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Sad actually.


11 posted on 06/08/2017 5:27:02 PM PDT by mdittmar
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...as it refused to order the release of two of the animals to a primate sanctuary.

I would think it a matter of how well they are currently being kept. Are they being properly fed? Do they have sufficient room to roam, play. Are they receiving proper veterinary care?, etc.... And is the area they are in now, properly zoned for such upkeep?

12 posted on 06/08/2017 5:27:22 PM PDT by onedoug
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If animals are going to be kept in captivity, I do want to see them treated humanely and given a place to exist where they can roam in a scaled down version of the wild.

This is particularly important for larger animals and ones with a higher intellectual state of being.

As far as calling them human, get real. That’s just nonsense.

Many zoos have improved their exhibits and I like that.


13 posted on 06/08/2017 5:28:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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Poor guy, I guess the divorce papers came through.


14 posted on 06/08/2017 5:29:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: onedoug

Don’t think the Nonhuman Rights Project cares about that.


15 posted on 06/08/2017 5:31:00 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Paladin2

per US 2015:35A:i 46 Wookius primus is afforded human rights as defined by Galactic Treaty of Grestalon


16 posted on 06/08/2017 5:32:04 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (the long night is over)
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lol!

As Kiko's council and defense attorneys, we will be in court first thing tomorrow morning to seek a writ of habeas chimpus before Judge Weber.

17 posted on 06/08/2017 5:39:45 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: DoughtyOne

18 posted on 06/08/2017 5:51:47 PM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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I specifically ordered my people not to let that video out, of me after a few drinks!


19 posted on 06/08/2017 6:00:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: DoughtyOne; JoeProBono
Monkey bidness!


20 posted on 06/08/2017 6:04:33 PM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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