The shooting of Steve Scalise is an argument for concealed-carry reciprocity

New York Daily News ^ | June 15, 2017 | John R Lott Jr

[richardb72]

Although he was seriously wounded, it is a lucky thing that Rep. Steve Scalise made it to baseball practice on Wednesday morning. Due to his position as majority whip, armed Capitol Hill Police accompanied Scalise. This security detail saved the lives of his House colleagues and two senators.

As Rep. Mike Bishop (R-Mich.), told WWJ radio in Detroit, “The only reason — the only reason — why any of us walked out of this thing: By the grace of God, one of the folks here had a weapon to fire back and give us a moment to find cover. Because we were inside the backstop and if we didn’t have that cover by a brave person who stood up and took a shot themselves, we would not have gotten out of there and every one of us would have been hit. Every single one of us.”

Many Republican representatives have concealed handgun permits from their home states, but carrying in the District of Columbia is illegal for all but a select few D.C. residents. The attack occurred in relatively gun-friendly Virginia, though that is irrelevant to a representative going directly between baseball practice and Capitol Hill.

Representative Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.) thinks that he has a solution: allow congressmen and women to carry in D.C. if they have a permit to do so in their home state. Of course, congressmen still aren’t likely to be carrying guns while out in the field, practicing baseball.

And what about their staffs? Why limit concealed carry only to congressmen and women?

Other Republican lawmakers are proposing nationwide reciprocity bills for all permit holders. Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) is introducing such legislation this week. Reciprocity would make life simpler for permit holders who travel. . . .

[SkyDancer]

If you pass a background check and are permitted(?) to buy and own a pistol why can’t you carry it concealed anyway?

[DoodleDawg]

Virginia does have concealed carry reciprocity with any state that also recognizes Virginia’s CCW permits.

[IC Ken]

Nothing adding up for me about the shooter. Interview with the mayor of Alexandria who talked with him everyday said he had no car. Also he saw him at the YMCA always on his laptop.

Congressman Duncan was the one that said it was a Republican team to the shooter and implied the shooter went to a van? I hope the corrupted FBI gets the vehicle and the laptop. Is this laptop SECURED!!

Would love to see what all is on that laptop.

[DoodleDawg]

Virginia is also an open carry state.

[Jamestown1630]

This is the first thing I thought when hearing of the shooting. All of the Senators and Congressmen should be armed.

[Texas Eagle]

Representative Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.) thinks that he has a solution: allow congressmen and women to carry in D.C. if they have a permit to do so in their home state.

You already have that right, you idiot. It's called The 2nd Amendment.

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[Psalm 144]

“I hope the corrupted FBI gets the vehicle and the laptop. Is this laptop SECURED!!”

Is the FBI secured?

[datricker]

Grannies got gun
Grannies got gun
Her sanity has just begun
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What did the democrat globalists do?
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They say when Grannie was accosted
She put a bullet through his ISIS head
But man, he had it comin'
Now that Grannie's got a gun
Illegals ain't never gonna be the same

[Fitzy_888]

For all the convoluted arguments using the Interstate Commerce Clause to justify this or that...the argument that it covers concealed carry reciprocity obvious.

The problem is, the convoluted arguments are how the Fed’s grab power, the obvious arguments are how the Fed’s lose (perceived) power.

[GOPJ]

I hope the corrupted FBI gets the vehicle and the laptop. Is this laptop SECURED!!

The FBI and the killer have the same taste in political enemies: Trump and traditional Americans. We can't trust them to protect anyone except liberal elites.

[ealgeone]

If your driver’s license is recognized why not your CCW?

[Tilted Irish Kilt]

Ping

[WildHighlander57]

Fitzy_888 wrote:

“For all the convoluted arguments using the Interstate Commerce Clause to justify this or that...the argument that it covers concealed carry reciprocity obvious.

The problem is, the convoluted arguments are how the Fed’s grab power, the obvious arguments are how the Fed’s lose (perceived) power.”

Good points!

Use the ICC against the Left; goodness knows they’ve used it against us on the Right.

[xzins]

There is no reason that a member of congress, a supreme court justice, a member of the cabinet, or the Potus and VPotus should be without a weapon if they want one.

It’s just common sense. They would be the first that terrorists or those seeking 15 minutes of fame would go after.

Of course, assign them guards. I keep hearing how expensive it would be, be but I’m thinking a rotation of 4 guards per member would do it. That would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 2400 guards plus schedulers and supervision. At about $150,000 a year including benefits, that would be 400 million bucks. This would, of course, tie into the programs already in place, so some of those slots are already being covered. I would keep the Potus and VPotus under Secret Service and separate.

[SkyDancer]

I guess different states have different requirements in order to purchase a concealable firearm.

[Portcall24]

Only because we told this POS governor to get lost when he tried to stop this.

[thoughtomator]

Turning this into a gun issue is incredibly poor form, tactics and strategy.

The issue here is not guns. As we have seen in the past, you don’t need a gun to kill a lot of people (just ask a Muslim).

The issue here is the intentional, industrialized mass destruction of civil order by parties which most certainly can and should be both named and held accountable.

[MayflowerMadam]

The congressmen could have protected themselves if they had had weapons. They could carry in VA but not in DC where they came from. Sitting ducks. Horrible!