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Is being Christian a crime in Michigan?
Fox News.com ^ | June 27, 2017 | John Moody

Posted on 06/27/2017 1:36:54 PM PDT by Kaslin

A group of Iraqi Christians facing deportation under President Trump’s tough new border controls has been given a temporary reprieve, but could still be sent back to face what their attorney calls almost certain death.

A U.S. District Judge issued a stay this week on the deportation of 82 Chaldean and Assyrian Christians from the Detroit area, who have criminal records, but who have served their prison time and paid their debt to society.

Their lawyer, Clarence M. Dass, points out that some of those criminal convictions date back to the 1980s and 1990s and involve drugs and financial misdeeds, not violent crimes. He wonders if his clients have been targeted for deportation by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency precisely because they are Christians. ICE denies that allegation.

“It’s peculiar to me that 99 percent of the people who were rounded up on June 10-11 were Chaldeans and Assyrians,” Dass told me. “In Michigan, only two Muslims are among those facing deportation. It seems weird that this happened after Congress declared Chaldeans and Assyrians victims of genocide.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: criminals
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s not nice at all to threaten people with God’s wrath.


41 posted on 06/27/2017 2:10:28 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"And also you would tar the entirety of a group based on the characteristics of the group lumped together?"

Why would you tar me with such an accusation?

Is Trump deporting them all or just the ones that committed crimes?

42 posted on 06/27/2017 2:10:36 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Sacajaweau

It MIGHT come... legislation could moot it.


43 posted on 06/27/2017 2:10:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: trisham

Bitch at God for this — I am just the one bearing the warning of what already existed. Our law can’t rise over His.


44 posted on 06/27/2017 2:11:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DannyTN

You changed the criteria in the discussion. This was first talking about old, abandoned crime, now you bring it up to any.


45 posted on 06/27/2017 2:12:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That was rude. Do you use that kind of language in Church?

It’s not me who’s pretending to be God.


46 posted on 06/27/2017 2:12:28 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Then complain about the One who inspired the words “he who pisseth against the wall.” KJV, and the Hebrew is equally earthy.

Don’t pull idolatry of prissy refinement on me.


47 posted on 06/27/2017 2:14:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin
And a number of mafia claim to be Christians as well.

When you are a guest in someone's home you are suppose to be on your best behavior.

As for the tattoo, have you seen the ones on MS-13 members? Shall we not deport them because they have cross tattoos and claim to be "Christian"?

48 posted on 06/27/2017 2:14:24 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: trisham

And yes you are pretending to be God when you deny His truth. I did not make this up out of thin air. Check your bible.


49 posted on 06/27/2017 2:14:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Here is where research could discern some actual pertinent facts. Before God, not before man.


50 posted on 06/27/2017 2:15:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Pfffft.


51 posted on 06/27/2017 2:18:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Are they pardoned?

If not, then that’s a hypothetical that’s not worth discussing.

Or are you asking, what if God forgave them? Remember what George W said about Karla Faye Tucker who picked a man apart with a pick axe but was born again in prison?

“My responsibility is to make sure our laws are enforced fairly and evenly without preference or special treatment,” Bush said in a statement. “Judgments about the heart and soul of an individual on death row are best left to a higher authority.” He added: “May God bless Karla Faye Tucker and may God bless her victims and their families.”


52 posted on 06/27/2017 2:19:38 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The article only said some of the crimes were old. It didn’t tell us how many are recent. and if you’re read all my posts in this thread, I said I didn’t mind if they stayed if there crimes were 20 or 30 years old, and they had straightened up. But I don’t know that is true of any of them.


53 posted on 06/27/2017 2:21:29 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: akalinin

You say “All”

Even the Christians?


54 posted on 06/27/2017 2:22:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Kaslin

Jailhouse xtrians...


55 posted on 06/27/2017 2:22:08 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Be careful — if we give them the blanket judgment, God will give us the blanket judgment too.

By the looks of it, they're being individually judged - and their fellow citizens find them wanting to live somewhere else.

BTW, the ability to stereotype is a gift from God. He gave the me ability to interpet and evaluate cultural norms in an effort to protect myself and others from harm. Think about it.
56 posted on 06/27/2017 2:22:43 PM PDT by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: DannyTN

Looks like at least some of the crimes happened 30 years ago, and that they’ve paid their debt to society. Certainly there’s a chance that their Christian faith has developed since then.


57 posted on 06/27/2017 2:25:20 PM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: Salvation
You say “All”

Even the Christians?


They're descendants of the original Christians...it's like Zionism, but for Christians. I'm being charitable here...
58 posted on 06/27/2017 2:26:37 PM PDT by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: Theo

Yeah, but the article doesn’t really tell us much. Only that some of the crimes occurred a long time ago. The way its worded, I suspect many of the crimes are recent.


59 posted on 06/27/2017 2:30:30 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Kaslin

If they are criminals then deport them just like any other criminal aliens lest a precedent be set that allows other immigrant felons to remain in the USA.

America first.


60 posted on 06/27/2017 2:39:28 PM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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