Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Brutal: Democratic 2018 Hopes Get Another Punch To The Gut From Left-Leaning Think Tank
Townhall.com ^ | June 30, 2017 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 06/30/2017 12:19:48 PM PDT by Kaslin

The Democrats are lusting for the House takeover. In some weird way, they see their 0-4 record in special elections as an indicator that they’ll retake the lower chamber. Democrats say they’re over performing in these elections. Democrats say this is a good sign. Everyone else says they’re still losers, even CNN

Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) from the People’s Republic of Illinois said that she feels confident that Democrats will pick up 25 seats. Well, from the concrete fortress of urban, progressive America, that may be a possibility—just as this cohort thought that Hillary Clinton would win in a landslide. Everyone else, even The New York Times, is not so sure. 

MSNBC’s Morning Joe tossed a wet blanket on the notion of a Democratic wave, noting the difficulties with candidate recruitment—no solid standout candidates—and the lack of a farm system to find those candidates. Nate Cohn at The New York Times noted that Democratic turnout for the GA-06 special election was the highest in a decade, but added that a) the Democratic path to the majority runs through red districts and Jon Ossoff’s defeat in Georgia showed the level of difficulty on that front; and b) even with the high Democratic turnout, the electorate could mirror that of 2016 which was favorable to Trump. In all, even with President Trump’s less than stellar approval rating, which usually is a good indicator for how midterm elections turn out for whichever party is occupying the White House, the GOP could retain the majority.

We’re not fighting an unpopular war that was growing increasingly out of control and corruption scandals haven’t hit the GOP leadership. Also, the Democrats were much more exposed heading into 2010 than Republicans. Also, for Democrats to win districts that trend Republican, having Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) as the face of the party is a recipe for disaster. The House Minority Leader proved to be a contributing factor to Ossoff’s defeat to Republican Karen Handel in the most expensive House race in history. Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH), who challenged Pelosi for the leadership position, conceded that she is more toxic than Trump in some parts of the country, and that the Democratic Party brand is just terrible right now.  All of this isn’t necessarily the making for headwinds into these red districts. Now, Third Way, a left of center think tank, released a study showing that even if the Democrats sweep the suburbs, they’ll still fall short (via WaPo) [emphasis mine]:

The opposition party needs to win 24 seats to take control of the House in 2018. Understandably, operatives and handicappers have focused on the 23 districts that Republicans hold, which voted for Hillary Clinton last year. But some of the incumbents are very popular, with brands that are distinct from Trump’s, and they are unlikely to lose no matter how bad the headwinds become.

In other words, it’s inconceivable that Democrats run the table in those 23 districts. Even if they did, they’d still be one short. And Democrats must defend 12 seats in districts that Trump carried in 2016.

Third Way did a deep dive to try to understand what the 2018 playing field will look like. The center-left think tank focused on 65 “Majority Makers,” the battlegrounds where a majority would most likely be won.

[…]

They divided the swing districts into four categories: Thriving Suburban Communities, Left Behind Areas, Diverse/Fast-Growing Regions, and Non-Conformist Districts.

[…]

The numbers underscore how different even the 23 GOP-held Clinton districts are demographically. Many are suburban and overwhelmingly white. Others are rural and heavily Latino. Within the broad categories, there are stark differences on income, educational attainment and employment rates. More than half of adults in New Jersey’s 7th District, for example, graduated from college. Only 17 percent in California’s 10th District did.

The most important takeaway is that there is no one kind of voter or district that can deliver the House for Democrats in 2018,” said Lanae Erickson Hatalsky, the vice president for social policy and politics at Third Way. “There’s been a lot of focus on suburban districts. There’s no doubt that those are important, but there are not enough of them to win the House.”

Hatalsky, who co-authored the report with Ryan Pougiales, emphasized that Democrats still would not win the House even if they could get every single 2016 Clinton voter who backed a Republican House candidate to turn out again in 2018 and cross over.

“You can’t get to a House majority without winning over Trump voters,” she said. “There are some people who definitely want to believe that they can because they still don’t know how to deal with Trump voters and are intimidated by the idea of appealing to them.”

Well, that certainly is a splash of cold water on those Democratic wave hopes. As of now, looks like low tide for the Left. 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 2018election; demonrats; georgiasixth; republicans; schakowsky; specialelection
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-55 last
To: Kaslin
They can pick up seats too, if many on our site want to repeat the midterm election of 2006, where so many on our side wanted to teach the gop a lesson. I will never forgive them if they will allow the repeat and let the rats to take over. And you know what will happen if they do. There will be no reelection for President Trump and the rats will succeed in filing impeachment charges against him.

Amen - I wish they were smart and ethical enough to understand what you just said...

41 posted on 07/01/2017 4:10:31 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: trebb

Thanks, lets pray that they are, and see what a disaster it would be if the rats are allowed to take over.


42 posted on 07/01/2017 4:14:10 AM PDT by Kaslin (The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
Hatalsky, who co-authored the report with Ryan Pougiales, emphasized that Democrats still would not win the House even if they could get every single 2016 Clinton voter who backed a Republican House candidate to turn out again in 2018 and cross over.

“You can’t get to a House majority without winning over Trump voters,” she said. “There are some people who definitely want to believe that they can because they still don’t know how to deal with Trump voters and are intimidated by the idea of appealing to them.”

Is there something the Democrats can adopt in their platform to increase their appeal with independent Trump voters? They will have to do something beyond improving leadership, pretending to be classier than Trump and increasing scare tactics.

Promises of Social Security raises and faster disability approvals might improve voter turnout of the chronic dependent classes. The 'free college' thing still attracts the college vote. But they need something to attract the "has earned some college credit" or "has a technical certificate" worker who is capable and wants to earn a decent salary.

43 posted on 07/01/2017 2:09:11 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family healthy and on-budget since 1993.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LS

I wonder if Trump will remain resistant to the continuous barrage of personal and job-related attacks. If anyone can, it will be him. But it has to be tiring and somewhat ego-deflating.


44 posted on 07/01/2017 2:16:16 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family healthy and on-budget since 1993.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: lapsus calami

“Worse, it’s toxic - absolutely, positively, T-O-X-I-C. Their “brand” is wreckage. Anyone still involved in pushing their agendas is a stone cold fool.”


I am beyond giving them the benefit of the doubt by assuming that they are fools. The history of Leftism/Socialism/Communism (really the same thing, the only minor difference being the amount of coercive power being used to put the policies in place) is SO unsuccessful and SO horrific that I just assume that anyone (other than a literal child, who has no means of knowing better) who backs such policies WANTS the natural consequences...which, inevitably, are mass arrests, gulags and mass executions, plus the usual economic ruin.

No, these people are not fools - they are EVIL. Please stop giving them the benefit of the doubt...they KNOW what they are proposing. The USSR, East Germany, Cuba and Venezuela ought to be enough for anyone to understand what Leftism INEVITABLY produces. Plus Cambodia, plus North Korea, plus the utter madness and brutality of Red China and its “Cultural Revolution.”

Fools? BAH!!! They are EVIL incarnate.


45 posted on 07/01/2017 2:47:22 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: TaxRelief

Not if it’s strategic. Did Hulk Hogan or the Undertaker ever get tired of people yelling at them? No, it was key to the performance.


46 posted on 07/01/2017 5:28:19 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

It’s a beautiful thing, ain’t it???


47 posted on 07/02/2017 3:22:48 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RooRoobird20

“...Thank you, President Trump....”

Right man, in the right place, at the right time, when the Country desperately needed an Adult and an American in charge.

When he successfully purges all the Obunghole leave-behinds, moles, and plants, we can get things moving again, properly.

It’s good to have Americans back in charge.


48 posted on 07/02/2017 3:25:13 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: LS
 
 
They worked hard at painting themselves into that corner, and they now own the consequences. At this point I wouldn't even call them an opposition "party" but an alliance that is openly advocating and working towards the overthrow of our current government, by any means necessary. Big O promised "fundamental change", there's some right there as to the tone and direction of the Democrat party.
 
 

49 posted on 08/06/2017 11:18:48 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

The only way Democrats pick up anything significant is if Trump voters stay home...

The republican betraying their rhetoric on repeal of Obamacare may make that happen.


50 posted on 08/06/2017 11:21:55 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ancesthntr
 
 
LoL - I'll call whomever I want, whatever I want to call them. I had a whole dictionary of descriptors to choose from - I just happened to settle on "fools". I'm not sure who all you were thinking about - it certainly wasn't the Pelosi, Chuckie Schumer, Clinton types - no, you are correct there, those are evil. I was thinking of all the politically illiterate useful idiot citizens - some known to me, others not - I run across on social media every day, not having a clue as to the evil they are in support of. Those are the fools I speak of, who seek out lies and wallow in them, not comprehending the bigger picture. It will be clowns like them who will be the ruination of this country.
 
 

51 posted on 08/07/2017 12:18:12 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: HamiltonJay
And if they do, than they are to blame if the rats impeach President Trump and remove him from Office.

So they better think about it.

52 posted on 08/07/2017 3:59:50 AM PDT by Kaslin (Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur - Politicians are not born; they are excreted. (Cicero)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

They can try, but even worst math in the world and they won’t get the Senate. Impeachment is to the dems what apparently Obamacare Repeal was to republicans. Campaign rhetoric... Nothing more


53 posted on 08/07/2017 5:27:50 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: lapsus calami

I think that we agree on the effects of these...uh, people. Communism, Leftism, etc. are totalitarian in nature, and exact a fearful price on those under their control.

I made a big deal about “fools” vs. a stronger set of terms, because I believe that these...people...have to take ownership of what they are preaching and voting for. Not all of them are so stupid or ignorant as you think - many WANT the US to become like Cuba, East Germany, the USSR, etc., and (IMHO) they need to be called out on it. If they happen to be ignorant and object that “this is not what I want,” then you have an opportunity to educate them, and perhaps to convince them that this kind of mindset and government leads ONLY to misery.

Of course, you are free to use whatever terms you’d like - you don’t need my permission or approval for that. I’m simply suggesting that we should call a spade, a spade and thereby accomplish 2 purposes: first, ridicule and, second, possible education. Either or both is a victory over these @ssholes.


54 posted on 08/07/2017 8:54:49 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: LS
Did Hulk Hogan or the Undertaker ever get tired of people yelling at them? No, it was key to the performance.

An excellent observation.

55 posted on 10/12/2017 5:28:24 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family healthy and on-budget since 1993.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-55 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson