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Tesla Battery, Subsidy and Sustainability Fantasies
Townhall.com ^ | July 22, 2017 | Paul Driessen

Posted on 07/22/2017 9:39:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/22/2017 9:39:45 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Excellent analysis of what most in the STEM world knows intuitively.

Of course, all of this is far beyond the meager abilities of your typical MSM writer, who thinks one must put caps on unused electrical outlets in order to conserve electricity.


2 posted on 07/22/2017 9:44:48 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

Or an all electric car is carbon neutral.


3 posted on 07/22/2017 9:56:59 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Kaslin

Why can’t they build a prius with a larger battery so I could charge it at home and drive, say, 30 miles before the gas engine is needed. I could charge it overnight, spend nothing on commute gas, and have a long range car as well.


4 posted on 07/22/2017 9:59:11 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Da Coyote

When the electric bulb was introduced they said it was impractical due to no grid to power them.

Same with gas cars ... NO gas stations were available.


5 posted on 07/22/2017 10:02:32 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: cymbeline
Why can’t they build a prius with a larger battery so I could charge it at home and drive, say, 30 miles before the gas engine is needed. I could charge it overnight, spend nothing on commute gas, and have a long range car as well.

Because then it would be a Chevy Volt.

6 posted on 07/22/2017 10:04:43 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: cymbeline

“say, 30 miles “

Range is 25 miles. Besides, you need to burn a little gas to keep it fresh.


7 posted on 07/22/2017 10:05:43 AM PDT by TexasGator
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They claim this one will go 25 on battery alone.

https://www.toyota.com/priusprime/


8 posted on 07/22/2017 10:06:27 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Volt has an IC engine?


9 posted on 07/22/2017 10:06:28 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Kaslin
💨☀️ Well the gigantic battery plant construction is goin full tilt bogey east of Reno. Couple of my " acquaintances" are gainfully employed there. I believe they work for Panasonic. Employment ads every couple weeks.
10 posted on 07/22/2017 10:07:23 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Kaslin

Elvon Musk has raised welfare-queenery to a fine art, yet there are those useful idiots who worship him as a beacon of free-market capitalism.


11 posted on 07/22/2017 10:08:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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To: Kaslin

Once again it is about control, limiting free choice, and forcing leftist ideas on others no matter how wrong-headed or distasteful they really are.

The hypocrites aren’t interested in the science, economics, or facts behind the push to eliminate oil and coal.

Yet they are the ones accusing others of being anti-science.


12 posted on 07/22/2017 10:09:38 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpin' before Trumpin' was cool.....)
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To: Kaslin

They can make everybody buy a Tesla and call it a tax.


13 posted on 07/22/2017 10:11:11 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Kaslin

“Now Tesla’s U.S. subsidies face extinction.”

Musk himself is BEGGING Congress to end the subsidies.


14 posted on 07/22/2017 10:11:28 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

“Then it was oil imports: electric vehicles (EVs) would reduce foreign dependency and balance of trade deficits. Bountiful oil and natural gas supplies from America’s hydraulic fracturing revolution finally eliminated that as an argument.”

This renders the entire article worthless.

The US imports about 9 million barrels of oil every single day. EVs are worthless, but so is this guy’s statement, rendering the rest of his work meaningless.


15 posted on 07/22/2017 10:12:46 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Da Coyote

Conservatism is never against technology. We should be against the politics of technology and government subsidies. The Tesla is a very nice car, but it should be a nice car on its own merits - not because of government rebates.

This article points out what we all know is obvious. It is, and it will remain, a niche vehicle in a niche market. It is not the magic answer to the climate fantasies that drive much of our economy thanks to government intervention and media hysteria. Anecdotally, the folks I know who have them would have likely purchased them without the rebate, $7500 is not much of a factor in that demographic.

Technology will eventually solve many of the “problems” our society seems obsessed with. Ironically, these advancements would happen quicker if the government stayed out of the market. In general, when the government gets involved today it slows the development of a more efficient and effective tomorrow. It also perpetuates the problem of corruption and crony-capitalism. Obama’s “green technology” initiatives made many of his friends and supporters very wealthy. It did very little for the rest of the country and nothing for the average American.


16 posted on 07/22/2017 10:13:39 AM PDT by volunbeer ("I will appoint a special prosecutor to look into your (Hillary) situation" - Trump - we are waiting)
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To: Kaslin

Horse and buggy has a range of about 15 to 20 miles and are a lot cheaper to recharge.


17 posted on 07/22/2017 10:19:17 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Musk’s companies have paid back every government loan with interest.
Taxes paid on his products & profits have exceeded tax credits given for them.
Technological advancements have been astounding (reusable rockets, 300+ mile luxury EVs, viable progress toward Mars).
And Musk himself is BEGGING Congress to end the subsidies.


18 posted on 07/22/2017 10:19:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

“Don’t throw me in that briar patch!”


19 posted on 07/22/2017 10:21:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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To: TexasGator
Volt has an IC engine?

Yes, it has a small battery, and will use it when it can, but if it runs out it will switch to a gasoline engine.

Chevy Volt Review

20 posted on 07/22/2017 10:22:35 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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