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How Much of a Nuclear Threat is North Korea Really?
Freedom Outpost ^ | July 31, 2017 | Daisy Luther

Posted on 07/31/2017 5:01:46 PM PDT by Mozilla

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To: bgill

Can diabetics have beans or rice? Those make a complete protein. If rice is out, then I don’t know how to make a complete protein out of beans without the wheat or rice. So canned meat would be the thing then.

What is the typical diet of a diabetic? Lots of foods come freeze dried these days, although that route is pricey.


41 posted on 08/01/2017 11:52:19 AM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian)
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To: bgill; CottonBall; PA Engineer; Jane Long; Obadiah
bgill :" What foods do you prep for a diabetic?
Most everything in cans or dehydrated is a big no-no for diabetics."

Exactly true, my FReeper friend !
I have spent almost three hours looking for a prepper diet for diabetes, type 2; I have found none that directly address the issue.
Most prepper sites advocate storage surplus of diabetic supplies, even offering insulin and supplies where it can be purchased at reduced prices,
but almost all recommend saving seed or developing artisan craft skills, and some encourage indoor gardening to maintain a fresh food supply.
Canned goods are forbidden due to the excess salt added for the retort process of canning foods; perhaps practical for the general population, but not for diabetics.
Perhaps the secret may be in "freeze dried foods" in which foods are flash-frozen; the foods just need to be re-hydrated,
They retain their original shape and nutrition and vitamins, but due to their size and bulk, they are not conducive for travel, or "bug-out".
I will send you what I have found today, thus far.

42 posted on 08/01/2017 12:23:52 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (The Fourth Estate has become Fifth column !)
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“Canned goods are forbidden due to the excess salt added for the retort process of canning foods; perhaps practical for the general population, but not for diabetics.”

If you can them yourself, you can leave out the salt. Or should I say “jar” them. I never have understood by putting things in Mason jars is called canning.

Anyway, I just put up 7 quarts of beets. Without salt. The only thing I ever add salt to is green beans, because they just taste better than when salted at the table.

Of course a lot of glass jars is hard to bug out with :-) But they are perfect to bug-in with. I did bring about 120 of them from California to Tennessee, without one breaking! That was a miracle. And due to my neurotic packing techniques.


43 posted on 08/01/2017 12:31:41 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian)
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You can’t live on tuna and green beans.

Sure you can. It would be boring, but life sustaining.

44 posted on 08/01/2017 12:32:52 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW!“At 9 a.m. this morning a shipbo Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH)
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CottonBall :"Can diabetics have beans or rice? Those make a complete protein.
If rice is out, then I don’t know how to make a complete protein out of beans without the wheat or rice."

You have captured the enigma of a diabetic diet !
Rice is a nutritious starch, and starches are to be restricted in a diabetic type2, diet (also: corn, potatoes).
I think you have the right idea with the freeze dried lean meat for protein, supplemented with nutritious and vitamin and anti-oxident vegetables.

45 posted on 08/01/2017 12:34:49 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (The Fourth Estate has become Fifth column !)
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So it would be pretty difficult for a diabetic to be a vegan then? I suppose if they were vegetarian they could get their protein from milk-based items. Or is lactose bad for diabetics also?


46 posted on 08/01/2017 12:37:03 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian)
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To: Mozilla
However, they’re making rapid progress, and experts believe that by sometime in 2018, they’ll have the capability of striking the West Coast, with its large population centers in Seattle, Los Angeles, Portland, and San Francisco.

Well now its in the news that the Norks can strike the East coast. Which is it? I really need to know if the East coast is doable. I've plenty to do and if only the West coast is at threat, I can procrastinate a little.

47 posted on 08/01/2017 12:42:50 PM PDT by CodeJockey (I don't have a license to kill, but I do have a learners permit.)
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speaking as a san diegan, I find your post hilarious.

In one of Clinton SOTU speeches he bragged, after a Russian stand down, that no nukes were posted at the US. He let China buy missile Guidance and super computers after taking bribes from the Chinese military. When he left office, there were 200 Chinese missiles which could reach the west coast. i never laughed so hard.


48 posted on 08/01/2017 12:45:45 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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no nukes POINTED at


49 posted on 08/01/2017 12:49:49 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Three hours. Thanks! A relative was just put on insulin. First thing I thought of was “One Second After.”


50 posted on 08/01/2017 3:37:21 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill
Meats and veggies. I am not diabetic, but the endocrinologist has me on a low carb diet of 50-60 grams of carbs per day, as I was becoming insulin resistant. I buy chicken, pork, and beef that's on sale about 40 lbs worth at a time, and then can it in the pressure canner.

This is the most tender meat and great flavor to eat straight from the jar, and you control whatever you want to put in it. I put just about 1/4 the salt of a typical recipe, and no other seasoning except for homemade bone broth or use a tsp. of bullion if I don't have it.

It's so simple as I use the raw pack. Just chop up the meat, and put it in the jars add the salt and broth. Put on the lids and rings and process. It's cheaper than any prepper food or supper market crap and no worries about what may be leaching into it from the can.

Veggies are also easy, and you could even make up your own mixed veggies-go easy on the taters and starchy stuff, and put in extra onions celery etc. Again, I just add a small amount of salt and boiling water.

Throw a jar of meat and another jar of veggies in a pot, and add spices - Mexican, Moroccan, Asian, American - it all tastes different depending on how you spice it up for variety.

I bought bulk amounts of spices and vacuum sealed them with desiccant - all the ones that I use the most anyway. Also you can dehydrate a lot of stuff or freeze it.

The biggest problem for a diabetic, I would think is the insulin - I don't think you can stock that in sufficient quantities can you?

If this is type 2 diabetes, then there are some spices that are used in other countries. The two that have had actual research that showed some effectiveness were Caraway - used by Moroccan Drs. and Cinnamon.

The cinnamon had several studies - 1-6 grams (1/4 - 1/2 tsp) was effective by 29% lowering of blood sugars and helped to stabilize levels effective at every level and persisted for 20 days after the study-so maybe wouldn't have to take it every day after a while.

They also tested supplements of 250 mg and 500 mg which were also effective. Sprinkling cinnamon over rice pudding prevented spikes in blood sugar level.

The Moroccan remedy is 1g of Caraway to 1/2 cup of distilled water - simmered for 10 minutes, after reaches boiling. Then consumed throughout the day. Therapeutic study on this was effective, but was done on rats - no humans.

Additional spices/food thought to be helpful-but I don't have the research handy: Almonds, Basil, Bay leaf, Chile, Cocoa, Coriander, Cumin, Curry leaf, Garlic, Mustard seed, Onion, parsley, Rosemary, Sage, Turmeric.

Now it is also important to have adequate healthy fats - these will slow down the starches to help prevent insulin spikes.

If the person has their insulin, and happens to have taken too much, a little honey and OJ under the tongue will help restore to normal.

Hope that helps. Since I stopped eating grains, and my dairy is mostly cheese, butter, eggs, and whole milk or yogurt (limited on the milk and yogurt), I no longer have issues with insulin spikes and that starving sensation or craving for carbs that I used to have.

51 posted on 08/03/2017 2:27:35 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: bgill

I should have mentioned also, that I buy canned shrimp, tuna, salmon, and clams. I have a great recipe for seafood chowder that I use with the shrimp or clams. There are dozens of recipes for salmon and tuna.

I figured fish once a week - so each week during the month is a different fish/seafood. Made it easy to calculate and then I just ordered them by the case.

All of my preps are used regularly, so when I open a can or jar, then I put it on the grocery list to replace it. Some exceptions are the long term storage items like canned powdered milk, beans, etc. That stuff is good for 20 years - it’ll probably be here long after I kick he bucket. LOL


52 posted on 08/03/2017 2:35:29 AM PDT by greeneyes
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Thanks for the ping. I think it is pretty crappy that the Federal Government has built all those underground shelters for continuity of government, but totally quit any civil defense for the taxpayers.

Russia and China both recently had drills involving millions of their people. Seems like they care more for their citizens and have a “prepper” mindset than the USA government does.

Do a web search, though - there are a lot of older civil defense pamphlets to be found on how to construct make shift shelters in the basement.


53 posted on 08/03/2017 2:40:18 AM PDT by greeneyes
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Excellent and informative post ... thanks greeneyes.


54 posted on 08/04/2017 3:40:15 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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No biggie thanks for the appreciation.


55 posted on 08/04/2017 7:17:30 PM PDT by greeneyes
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