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No intermediate algebra, no problem: CSU ditches tricky math prerequisite
San Jose Mercury-News ^ | August 2, 2017 | By EMILY DERUY

Posted on 08/02/2017 11:46:13 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

If you’re one of those students who dreads math — especially algebra — you’ll soon get a bit of a break at the California State University system.

For years, intermediate algebra had been a prerequisite for the system’s general math classes, meaning even students who weren’t majoring in math or science related fields had to complete the course before they could complete their math requirement. Beginning in the fall of 2018, students whose majors aren’t math or science heavy will be able to fulfill their math requirements without slogging through intermediate algebra first — part of a larger effort to increase graduation rates.

“What that means for students is they have more choices,” said Christine Mallon, CSU’s associate vice chancellor for academic programs and faculty development.

Right now, nearly 40 percent of freshmen admitted to a CSU campus have to take remedial math or English classes that are time consuming and expensive but don’t actually count toward a degree.

The chancellor of the state’s community colleges agrees. Eloy Oakley told the Los Angeles Times several weeks ago he doesn’t think intermediate algebra should be required to earn an associate’s degree, either, unless the student is pursuing a math-heavy degree.

“College-level algebra is probably the greatest barrier for students — particularly first-generation students, students of color — obtaining a credential,” he told the Times. “If we know we’re disadvantaging large swaths of students who we need in the workforce, we have to question why. And is algebra really the only means we have to determine whether a student is going to be successful in their life?”

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: algebra; education; university
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The more math experience you have, the less people can trick you. It’s the reasoning ability and logic that goes with it, not just number crunching or formulas.

E.g., someone with little math experience is more likely to believe it when they are told that man’s contribution to climate is as significant as, let’s say, the sun.

They are more likely to believe that the small amount of smoke they get secondhand is about as bad for them as what a smoker gets.

They are more likely to believe that government helping the poor is cost effective, being unable to imagine how expensive those government employees, buildings, and lavish benefits are.


21 posted on 08/02/2017 12:11:41 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But courses on white privilege and the problem of whiteness are absolutely necessary.


22 posted on 08/02/2017 12:11:56 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Haven’t they dropped everything yet? Give the snowflakes more time to protest.


23 posted on 08/02/2017 12:17:21 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

colleges
Decreasing required education classes (hard science skills)
Increasing political indoctrination classes (gender studies, White privilege studies).

and you’re going to pay to be politically indoctrinated

reminds me of the old story of when you got executed in communist countries that would bill the family for the bullet


24 posted on 08/02/2017 12:17:30 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: FatherofFive

I remember cursive algebra.....


25 posted on 08/02/2017 12:18:06 PM PDT by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Old clip, but very funny:
Miss USA—-Should math be taught in school?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QBv2CFTSWU


26 posted on 08/02/2017 12:19:45 PM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Honestly folks, if you can’t pass this watered-down version of Intermediate Algebra, you are too dumb to get a degree in anything.

And no student loan should fund you.


27 posted on 08/02/2017 12:21:08 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: fruser1

The whole purpose of education is to develop a good “BS Detector”.

Of course, the Government doesn’t want that. It’s why we have so many people who fall for the Global Warming Scam.


28 posted on 08/02/2017 12:25:19 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jdege

Whois RAH?

Heinlein?


29 posted on 08/02/2017 12:30:47 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

For women and minorities.


30 posted on 08/02/2017 12:37:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, if a job applicant lists “CSU” as their college degree ... “Oh, I’m sorry, you are overqualified!”


31 posted on 08/02/2017 12:43:20 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: jdege
It's not sufficient, but it's most definitely necessary. And if you don't understand that distinction, you've no business calling yourself an educator.

And you do not understand what has become of the education realm, which was well underway way back when I escaped the field. I had an English teacher explain to me in exhaustive detail that spelling was not important, just that the (inner-city) kids could get their point across. Expectations are at a bare minimum, and almost universally were designed to make sure that the "educators" were not burdened by them... only paperwork and babysitting.

32 posted on 08/02/2017 12:44:07 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So Blacks can’t learn it so drop it, leaving non-Blacks with an incomplete education.

More and more dumbing down of the country.


33 posted on 08/02/2017 12:55:26 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And work ethic and bein' on time an' s**t, that's a White thing!

From now on it's Black People's Time./sarc

34 posted on 08/02/2017 12:59:48 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I recently graduated from CSU (ahem... Cleveland State University) with a bachelors in electrical engineering.

This drove me nuts while working toward my degree. I argued with my counselor that if I was required to take several humanities classes - read black studies - for my engineering degree, then the liberal arts students should be required to take calculus. I lost that fight, of course.

C_E


35 posted on 08/02/2017 1:00:15 PM PDT by clueless_expert
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

At least we know who to cheat on payroll! They can’t do any mafs!


36 posted on 08/02/2017 1:07:51 PM PDT by CodeToad (AA)
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To: CodeToad

I had an employee that was I’ll say at least 40. It took me a while but I finally learned couldn’t read nor write. He could sign his name.

He had a fantastic memory though and when the task at hand was fully described, he did precisely as he was told. He was a skilled glazier and good at his job.

When it came to money, he knew precisely what he was due. He could not have been slighted on the payroll.


37 posted on 08/02/2017 1:13:48 PM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: clueless_expert

You made a very good, common-sense argument, which of course means that it was rejected by the politically-correct faculty. It is so frustrating to see my students being forced to take indoctrination courses, which they do not want, and which are of no value to them. They waste time, cost money, and pollute minds. Those courses survive only because they are required for a degree. It is a racket.


38 posted on 08/02/2017 1:18:08 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: RightGeek

>>Doing what, exactly?

Being obedient.

2+2=5 for the obedient.


39 posted on 08/02/2017 1:47:09 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Right now, nearly 40 percent of freshmen admitted to a CSU campus have to take remedial math or English classes…

In other words, 40 percent of freshmen admitted to a CSU campus are not qualified and should never have been admitted.

40 posted on 08/02/2017 2:00:05 PM PDT by Petrosius
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