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US military to shoot down consumer drones (DJI drones also banned in military)
BBC ^ | August 8, 2017 | Unattributed

Posted on 08/08/2017 8:02:25 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

The Pentagon has given US military bases permission to shoot down or otherwise destroy consumer drones flying overhead and nearby.

A spokesman revealed that guidance was issued on 4 August. He said the exact terms of the policy were classified.

The move comes days after the US Army ordered its own troops to stop using drones made by Chinese manufacturer DJI because of alleged "cyber-vulnerabilities".

It became illegal to fly personal drones within 400ft (122m) of the US's 133 military facilities in April.

The Federal Aviation Administration announced at the time that those who disobeyed the order would face financial penalties and possible criminal charges.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: china; cyber; drone; uas

1 posted on 08/08/2017 8:02:25 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

See this article that was linked to in the BBC story...

“US Army calls for units to discontinue use of DJI equipment”

https://www.suasnews.com/2017/08/us-army-calls-units-discontinue-use-dji-equipment/

“According to a U.S. Army memo obtained by sUAS News, the U.S. Army Research Lab and U.S. Navy have concluded that there are operational risks associated with DJI equipment, a move that was run up the flag pole last month but kept under wraps.”


2 posted on 08/08/2017 8:04:21 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

The article does not state the specific “cyber-vulnerabilities”, which might be good to know. I noted that a DJI spokesman claimed that they were never specified.

You can see how a back door data collection capability could be built in to these things, though. The potential for harm could be pretty huge. So tell us what it is!


3 posted on 08/08/2017 8:09:57 AM PDT by Zarro (Oh, we don't call them the "MSM" any longer; they are now the "Basket of Detestables")
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To: Seizethecarp

Seems reasonable. I have the same policy.


4 posted on 08/08/2017 8:11:33 AM PDT by robroys woman
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To: Seizethecarp

I thought the FAA forbade this? Last I heard the military is subservient to the FAA/Civilians!

Or is it that we peasants must be subject to peeping toms not allowed to shoot because the FAA prefers it so?

So cyber snooping for us but we cannot snoop and blow the whistle on them?

Bull Sht!


5 posted on 08/08/2017 8:17:51 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: Zarro

DJI hardware likes to phone home with image and location data.


6 posted on 08/08/2017 8:21:03 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Seizethecarp

And how do they propose this ? What type of ammo will they be using ? Will they be accountable for misses, secondary damages and even deaths ?

Drones are NOT easy to shoot down,and are far more of a challenge when you’re near the population and you’re missing every shot.


7 posted on 08/08/2017 8:23:51 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Seizethecarp

These damn things are available all over! You can order one at Amazon! Putting them in the hands of the (stupid) general public was a big mistake. Shoot them down!


8 posted on 08/08/2017 8:27:11 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Insanity, even when disguised by a nice-sounding name, is still insanity.)
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To: Seizethecarp

This could backfire. I could foresee an Air Force base not being able to scramble for an attack because they were being swarmed by drones and spending all of their energy on that.


9 posted on 08/08/2017 8:27:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Seizethecarp

Good. Some terrorist is likely to use them.


10 posted on 08/08/2017 8:29:28 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Seizethecarp

Good.

The only thing better than shooting the damn things would be shooting the idiots who fly them (anywhere other than over their OWN property).


11 posted on 08/08/2017 8:29:52 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Seizethecarp

I’ve been looking for some volunteer work to do. I’ll even provide my own shotgun and ammo. Tough work at night, though, without some support.


12 posted on 08/08/2017 8:39:53 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: NorthMountain

I imagined something like that. That could supply quite a volume of intel, with a swarm of amateur drones across the US providing imagery...

Thanks for the reply, NM.


13 posted on 08/08/2017 9:12:28 AM PDT by Zarro (Oh, we don't call them the "MSM" any longer; they are now the "Basket of Detestables")
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To: Buckeye McFrog
...I could foresee an Air Force base not being able to scramble for an attack because they were being swarmed by drones and spending all of their energy on that.

I suspect that 10 or so drones dancing in low over the runway could make takeoff an iffy prospect. With 20+ minute duration per drone, how many drones would it take to effectively close a runway for several hours? Even a terrorist group can afford 100+ drones, it is child's play for any government.

14 posted on 08/08/2017 9:23:08 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Celerity

“This ridiculous drone gun can shoot down UAVs from 2km”

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/droneshield-dronegun-shoot-drone-uav-sky

“Since the drone gun launched, the company has claimed it has had interest, and sales leads, from a number of nations. In January 2017, the gun was used by Swiss police at the World Economic Forum in Davos.

“Graubünden, a Swiss police agency, had the gun as part of prevention methods to protect the political leaders and other guests at the event.”


15 posted on 08/08/2017 10:00:34 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Celerity

I think that the drone will crash if the controller goes up in a cloud of antiradiation missle explosions.. NO excused, no arguing, NOT PRUDENT DON’T DO IT..


16 posted on 08/08/2017 10:03:37 AM PDT by contrarian
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“I could foresee an Air Force base not being able to scramble for an attack because they were being swarmed by drones and spending all of their energy on that.”

I could force an Air Force base being swarmed by drones AS an attack.

Strangely convenient if the base is being swarmed by drones right when they need to scramble for an attack. Spending energy on that would be warranted, esp. with the ease of loading a little C4 in each and buzzing them into hangars, entrances, cockpits, etc. - exactly the reason the AF wants the power to destroy unauthorized drones without notice.


17 posted on 08/08/2017 10:19:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Yeh but they won’t shoot down an Iranian drone hassling a hornet that’s trying to land on a carrier.


18 posted on 08/08/2017 11:15:34 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: CurlyDave
I suspect that 10 or so drones dancing in low over the runway could make takeoff an iffy prospect. With 20+ minute duration per drone, how many drones would it take to effectively close a runway for several hours?

Drone Swarm Test (it gets interesting at 1:00)

19 posted on 08/08/2017 1:09:29 PM PDT by Oatka
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