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SOCIALIZED MEDICINE KILLS
FPM ^ | August 8, 2017 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 08/11/2017 3:48:20 PM PDT by NYer

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is an investigative journalist and writer focusing on the radical left and Islamic terrorism.

As the health care debate goes on, Senator Bernie Sanders will toss in a socialized medicine bill.

Bernie’s bill won’t be a realistic piece of legislation. The 1 percenter Socialist from Vermont has three successful bills to his name. Two of those involved renaming post offices. He was a marginal figure during the ObamaCare debate. The financials of the plan won’t work. But they never do.

ObamaCare insurers are losing billions. Aetna pulled out after $700 million in losses. United Health jumped after losing $720 million. The single-payer that Bernie wants to propose will be even worse.

Vermont’s single payer experiment cost $4.3 billion out of a $4.9 billion state budget. The California Senate passed single-payer with no way to cover the $400 billion cost in a $183 billion budget.

Democrats who wouldn’t vote for it faced death threats and accusations that they were “murderers”.

That’s what every argument about socialized medicine comes down to. Either you support it or you want people to die.

Bernie Sanders has been accusing Republican repealers of killing thousands. If ObamaCare is repealed, "36,000 will die yearly". Then he claimed, “up to 28,000 Americans every single year could die.”

 Is it 36,000 or 28,000? Who cares? The point is, if you’re against socialized medicine, you’re a murderer. The right numbers, either the budget or the casualties, don’t matter. Emotions trump statistics.

In 2015, the year after ObamaCare took effect, the death rate rose for the first time in a decade. 2,471,984 deaths occurred in this country in 2008. In 2014, we were up to 2,626,418.

That’s a difference of 150,000. And going up, not down.

You would think that if the ObamaCare mandate is saving so many lives, we ought to be seeing fewer deaths, not more of them.

Life expectancy in the year after ObamaCare fell for the first time since 1993. That was, coincidentally, the year of Hillary’s big push for socialized medicine.

 Socialized medicine is better at taking lives than at saving them. Just ask Bernie.

The closest the Vermont Socialist has gotten to medical management was his time as VA committee chair. After hundreds of thousands of veterans died waiting for care, Bernie covered up the carnage. He claimed it was a right-wing conspiracy, sabotaged efforts to hold hearings and dismissed the complaints.

"When you are dealing with 200,000 people, if you did better than any other health institution in the world, there would be thousands of people every single day who would say 'I don't like what I'm getting,'" he insisted.

Bernie lied. 307,000 veterans died.

The Socialist Senator was obsessed with the VA because it was another template for socialized medicine. He denounced the criticisms of it as a right-wing plot to privatize the VA. Advocates of socialized medicine respond in this typical tribal fashion to rationing scandals whether it’s the NHS or the VA.

Socialized medicine isn’t a system. It’s an ideology. No amount of deaths or statistics can discredit it. And that is another reason it’s so dangerous. It combines the entrenched bureaucracy that rots all government programs from within with the fanatical conviction that it is the road to utopia.

It doesn’t matter how many people a progressive program kills. It must be defended on principle.

Socialized medicine is sold with a lie. The lie is that you can get all the medical care you need for a low price. Or even for free. But socialized medicine doesn’t have less rationing than the hybrid government-market programs that progressives keep incrementally creating and then tearing down. It has more.

Insurers that offered the most options suffered the biggest losses under ObamaCare. The ObamaCare insurers that made money did it by offering few doctors and low quality health care. The more they rationed services to patients and payments to doctors and hospitals, the better they did.

And that’s how ObamaCare was designed to work. Full socialized medicine is even worse.

Socialism always sells the same lie. Take anything, remove the profit motive, scale up taxes and you can distribute it more fairly. But instead socialized medicine cannibalizes the health care market. Patients get tightly rationed health care. Doctors and hospitals are squeezed on reimbursements. The system never rations itself. Instead it rations care and becomes a policy vehicle for social engineering.

Even while Obama Inc. was touting ObamaCare, it was moving forward with cuts to health care services for active military personnel. ObamaCare replaced viable health care plans with unusable plans that were catastrophic care in all but name. Rationing was always the name of the game.

Socialism doesn’t build services, it builds bureaucracy. The bureaucracy rations the services it administers while building bigger buildings, hiring more personnel and expanding its organization. Bureaucrats get nicer chairs while patients bleed out waiting to see a doctor. Medications vanish from the formulary while unions negotiate bigger contacts with more perks. The bureaucracy insulates itself from criticism by identifying its existence and funding with medicine. Oppose it and you’re a murderer.

That’s socialized medicine.

The world was riveted by the drama of Charlie Gard’s death at the hands of British socialized medicine. The director of one hospital was being paid $78,000 a month. Another exec was receiving $55,000. Great Ormond Street Hospital, the institution made famous by Peter Pan, which seemed obsessed with killing Charlie, had a dying child abused by Jimmy Savile, in the Baby P case, Sabah Al-Zayyat missed the fact that an abused child had a broken back and its head of cardiology was booted for molesting young boys. A report had claimed that the hospital couldn’t pay its bills and children were beating treated in hallways and waiting rooms.  

Take the worst abuses in a free market system. Then make them permanent. That’s socialized medicine.

The death rate in America is 8.20 per 1,000 people. In the UK, it’s 9.40. The death rate rose in the UK around the same time that it was rising in the US. It was the biggest rise since 1968.

And the NHS, the gold standard in socialized medicine, has death rates 4 times higher than America. Seriously ill NHS patients were seven times more likely to die than they were in the United States.

Almost 10% of British patients died in a surgical study compared to 2.5% of American patients. The head of anesthesia at Great Ormond blamed the NHS' waiting lists for the death toll.

Socialists lie, hospital patients die.

The American left shrieks that without socialized medicine, we’ll die. The facts show that socialized medicine kills. The left promises that socialized medicine will mean health care for everyone. The facts show that it will mean less care, fewer doctors and more health care rationing across the board.

Call it single-payer, Medicare-for-all or any other euphemism, socialized medicine is death.

Members of Congress get their medical care through the Office of the Attending Physician: an institution that dates back to 1928. For a $596 annual fee, you can get your primary care that way. That's where Bernie Sanders' medical note came from indicating he uses it for his medical needs.

Congressman Steven LaTourette came down with pancreatic cancer after OAP doctors failed to notify him that he had a lesion. He died last year.

Socialized medicine really will kill you.

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About Daniel Greenfield

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: health; medicare; obamacare

1 posted on 08/11/2017 3:48:20 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Liz; GreyFriar
Any doubts as to the direction the Democrats are taking, I received the following email today from Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D).

Friends – As a mom, I'm grateful that I've always had access to good health care for my family – and I never want anyone to have to worry about not being able to afford a needed doctor's visit or prescription. Health care should be a right, not a privilege.

But right now, our health care system leaves so many families one medical emergency away from bankruptcy – and Republicans seem desperate to make it worse by leaving even more people uninsured. It's heart-wrenching to realize how many people are forced to go without care they need because they can't afford it.

That's why I'm advocating for Medicare for all: so that good, affordable health care is available to everyone who needs it, period. But right now, I need to hear where you stand:

KG is conducting a survey. This article provided the necessary statistics to respond in a meaningful way. The British health system failed the parents of Charlie Gard, refusing them parental rights to bring their son to the US for treatment.

2 posted on 08/11/2017 3:56:00 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

Mmmmmm......she musta felt s-o-o-o-o-o-o good about herself ..... putting out that BS.


3 posted on 08/11/2017 3:59:54 PM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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To: NYer
But right now, our health care system leaves so many families one medical emergency away from bankruptcy

Ha! My wife's niece (5'3" 300 lbs.) and her husband (6'0" 400 lbs.) go to the emergency room about 35 times a year and they pay...nothing. But of course they work hard...NOT. They don't work.

4 posted on 08/11/2017 4:35:22 PM PDT by libertylover (In 2016 small-town America got tired of being governed by people who don't know a boy from a girl.)
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To: NYer
Any doubts as to the direction the Democrats are taking

Don't fool yourself, the Republicans are right behind them.

5 posted on 08/11/2017 4:38:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NYer; Liz

Of course KG doesn’t mention the items that Medicare doesn’t cover, thus making “medi-gap” insurance a necessity. Also, look at the Canadians who come to the US to get surgeries, MRIs, CAT Scans, and other procedures because their socialized medicine system does not spend money on latest or even 20 year old technology. Also, in Great Britain, over the age of 70, their socialized medicine makes decisions on a cost-benefit scale of ‘is it worth doing a hip replacement or just give the person (as president bh0 once said) heavy duty motrin.

Also, remember the the Veterans Affairs run hospitals and clinics are “socialized medicine” and everyone knows all of the horror stories about back logs of treating vets and many dying before they ever see a government doctor.


6 posted on 08/11/2017 4:43:16 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: dfwgator

Insurence companies help all politicians get elected and reelected. Deep state bureaucrats will decide who gets healthcare. Transgenders? No problem. Barbara Wagner was a beneficiary of Oregon’s “Death with Dignity Law.” When faced with a $4,000 per month cancer treatment expenditure as opposed to a one time $50 expenditure, the state of Oregon chose the latter, sending her an unsigned letter informing her of their decision to allow her to die. “See Death Drugs Cause Uproar in Oregon” By SUSAN DONALDSON JAMES Aug. 6, 2008


7 posted on 08/11/2017 5:41:40 PM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: Vehmgericht

Big Business wants Socialized Medicine.....and what Big Business wants....Big Business gets.


9 posted on 08/11/2017 5:56:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NYer
Congressman Steven LaTourette came down with pancreatic cancer after OAP doctors failed to notify him that he had a lesion. He died last year.

LaTourette (was my congressman) was a putz and a Rino but his death was preventable if not for the incompetence of his doctor.

He sued over this but I think he died before it was resolved.

10 posted on 08/11/2017 6:02:14 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: NYer
Nigel Duncan, spokesman for the British Medical Association, said: "The number of new doctors coming on line is far fewer than was predicted by the Department of Health and far fewer than the NHS needs."

This one of the biggest problems with Socialized Medicine.

The Best and the Brightest do not want to work in fields where these income is controlled by a bureaucrat. They do not want to work where they are told what to do and when to do it by a bureaucrat.

The Best and the Brightest will go in to some other field where their earnings and their fate are in their own hands.

This fact is already being felt in the US. Doctors that once were in private practice are being forced by economics to sell out and go to work for bigger outfits.

The younger people are choosing to become dentist or veterinarians where they can make more money because they are not controlled by federal laws.

11 posted on 08/11/2017 6:23:52 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Pontiac

I have a friend. Four of their new hires are from another country. Really bright, very competent physicians from Poland, Ireland, and even one from Africa. All did post-doc training at good places here, e.g., MassGeneral, Hopkins, Mayo.


12 posted on 08/11/2017 6:29:48 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

So our future doctors will be the best and brightest from other countries.

Coming to America to make more money than they could in the countries they left.


13 posted on 08/11/2017 7:54:10 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Vehmgericht
When faced with a $4,000 per month cancer treatment expenditure as opposed to a one time $50 expenditure, the state of Oregon chose the latter,

And yet after spending tens of thousands of dollars we can't find a drug to execute criminals.

14 posted on 08/12/2017 11:38:02 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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