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Navy to 'consider' whether crashed warships were hacked
NY Post ^ | August 21, 2017 | Max Jaeger

Posted on 08/22/2017 4:47:18 AM PDT by Zakeet

The Navy will investigate whether two US destroyers were hacked before they collided with merchant ships in a pair of recent crashes, according to a top Navy admiral.

"2 clarify Re: possibility of cyber intrusion or sabotage, no indications right now ... but review will consider all possibilities," tweeted Admiral John Richardson, referencing sweeping new investigations announced Monday into two recent accidents involving Naval warships in the Pacific.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: collision; cybersecurity; hack; hacking; mccain; navy; usnavy; warshipaccidents; warships
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Any of you ex-Navy Freepers think that a hack might be the cause?

1 posted on 08/22/2017 4:47:18 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

“Dog ate my homework!”

“I was hacked!”


2 posted on 08/22/2017 4:51:13 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: Zakeet
I'm an old Army guy who knows literally *nothing* about the Navy but with today's technology it's easy to imagine today's Navy employing computers on vessels.

If hacking is the cause who would have done it? Western Pacific region....China?

3 posted on 08/22/2017 4:53:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: TTFlyer

Good idea to check it out anyhow.


4 posted on 08/22/2017 4:53:09 AM PDT by Bogie
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Don’t be ridiculous. Every watch has I think has 5 lookouts and redundant systems to avoid collision. The problem is navigating in heavily traffic waters requires some decent seaman ship. These two fatal collision have one thing in common. they happened in heavily traffic choke points.


5 posted on 08/22/2017 4:54:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Zakeet

Don’t be ridiculous. Every watch has I think has 5 lookouts and redundant systems to avoid collision. The problem is navigating in heavily traffic waters requires some decent seaman ship. These two fatal collision have one thing in common. they happened in heavily traffic choke points.


6 posted on 08/22/2017 4:54:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Maybe a concept that we could use.

Got to think outside the box.

7 posted on 08/22/2017 4:55:08 AM PDT by Bogie
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To: Gay State Conservative

China, North Korea or Russia
All possibilities
All in 7 th Fleet out of Yokosuka?


8 posted on 08/22/2017 4:55:41 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: central_va

What’s the capability of this hacking business.

Could weapons be launched by hacking? Ships’ steering controlled?

I’m a civi so I have no idea.

Hoping the answer is a HUGE no.


9 posted on 08/22/2017 4:57:07 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Zakeet

The military vessels have defenses for their GPS. I suspect the commercial vessels don’t.


10 posted on 08/22/2017 4:58:41 AM PDT by batterycommander (I learned my Artillery skills from the United States Marines. USNA 65)
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To: Zakeet

Hacking is an 80% possibility.
The Navy needs to use GPS to verify actual navigation by the start, compass and clock.


11 posted on 08/22/2017 5:00:04 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Gay State Conservative

Our own anti- war jackboots. When you think of the Anti-Americanism in Google and other tech companies, it isn’t a far stretch to know one of their fringe employees may have had a double shot of koolaid.


12 posted on 08/22/2017 5:00:51 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: Zakeet

I certainly don’t. For the simple reason that these things happen enough to where human error is always found to be the issue. Occasionally, there is an engineering casualty that either precipitates or complicates things, but a well trained and disciplined crew can overcome those things.

Secondarily, let’s say someone found a way to hack some system (just pick any system) They would have to have a way to initiate the hacked system at just the right point to have an effect such as a collision. That would involve knowing a ships course and scheduled operations, and someone to initiate it in proximity to another ship. Doing it at the wrong time would tip the crew off something is wrong.

It is tin-foil conspiracy stuff. It doesn’t surprise me at all that the Navy would say they are looking at that. What the heck else can they say? That their leadership, training, and preparedness is so in the toilet they can’t steam without colliding with other vessels?

That would be the same as full out admitting they cannot fight.

Which at this time, I am questioning as well.


13 posted on 08/22/2017 5:01:02 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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To: dp0622

No. Not possible.


14 posted on 08/22/2017 5:01:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Zakeet

Queers on the bridge wrecked the ships in retribution for the ousted transvestites


15 posted on 08/22/2017 5:01:40 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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Of course they were hacked. The USS McCain collision is like the 2nd plane hit on 9/11. Cannot be a another coincidence.


16 posted on 08/22/2017 5:02:20 AM PDT by montag813 (ue)
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“Any of you ex-Navy Freepers think that a hack might be the cause?”....

Anything is possible but there is also a thing called human intervention which could override the proposed “hacking” theory. IMO, Certainly there has to be more to these crashes than some computer malfunction.


17 posted on 08/22/2017 5:03:14 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: central_va

Good!!! :)


18 posted on 08/22/2017 5:03:15 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: BuffaloJack
"...Hacking is an 80% possibility..."

69.7% of all statistics are pulled out of thin air with no evidence, statistics or proof as to their validity.

Nothing personal here, BuffaloJack, but that statement is out there.

19 posted on 08/22/2017 5:03:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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To: Zakeet

Dr. Evil perhaps?


20 posted on 08/22/2017 5:04:24 AM PDT by Mashood
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