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It’s Come To This (video only)
YouTube.com ^ | 8-27-2017 | Dave Cullen

Posted on 08/28/2017 8:39:55 AM PDT by servo1969

I'm starting to believe that with all of this online censorship, the graffiti of the future will be IP addresses written on walls in chalk.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ban; internet; speech; tyranny; youtube
How long before Computing Forever, Dave Cullen's channel get shoved down the memory hole?
1 posted on 08/28/2017 8:39:55 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

...And the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls, and tenement halls...


2 posted on 08/28/2017 8:41:57 AM PDT by dangus
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To: servo1969

I get it. Where does it end? What is grade of the slippery slope and who controls what gets pushed down it.

But the premise of this video is that all speech should be allowed online, and it should be up to the entire online discourse to rebuke it, and allow the best ideas to flourish.... such as not making holocaust denial illegal (as it is in some countries) and just let everyone knock it down when some idiot tries to deny it happened. And on this point I can understand the other side’s perspective. Allowing hate speech on the internet and letting the internet govern it socially is not effective in many ways. There are still idiots out there who will consume it as fact and truth and ignore the rest of the internet. It’s the same tool that many groups, including ISIS, use to radicalize people.

So again, I get it. Who decides what is hate speech? Who decides what is offensive?
That’s a huge problem and as a libertarian, I don’t like that such a thing is subjectively arbitrated.
But on the other hand, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I don’t think the internet should be pure unhindered anarchy


3 posted on 08/28/2017 8:53:11 AM PDT by z3n
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To: servo1969
Here are three videos that a search for race differences in intelligence new century turns up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mJmxKCkxIU Posted 26 August 2017. Not shadow-banned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF-APL3pUVs Posted 28 March 2017. Not shadow-banned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJNVb0GnPI&bpctr=1503937793 Posted 24 January 2014. Shadow-banned. Note the extra parameter on the URL

Searching for videos specifically turns up still more or Jared Taylor.

4 posted on 08/28/2017 9:11:41 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: z3n

I’ll stick the Founders’ take on the issue.


5 posted on 08/28/2017 9:14:39 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: servo1969
Where's Sessions on YouTube and any Anti Trust violations?

Zzzz.

6 posted on 08/28/2017 9:25:03 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: servo1969
Here's a potentially interesting site: HookTube.com. It provides access to YouTube's "media files directly without tracking you or activating any of its scripts, enabling you to download YouTube music and videos or just share YouTube videos without giving Google and its partners ad revenue or views."

Here is the example shadow-banned video via HookTube:

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=6SJNVb0GnPI&t=1s&bpctr=1503748433

You get your choice of 720p or 360p.

7 posted on 08/28/2017 9:26:22 AM PDT by cynwoody
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Founders protected you from the government, not youtube.

People need to wake up and start working toward alternatives


8 posted on 08/28/2017 9:33:33 AM PDT by z3n
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To: servo1969

There is always the direct dialed modem hooking into the BBS.


9 posted on 08/28/2017 9:55:02 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: z3n

Who decides what is hate speech?

The problem is all the people who decided hate speech existed in the first place.

Because it doesn’t.


10 posted on 08/28/2017 9:55:11 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Agreed. There is only SPEECH, and some morons hate it.


11 posted on 08/28/2017 9:59:45 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: The Toll

Right.

There is only Speech.
Some speech contains hateful rhetoric but that is not what ‘hate speech’ means in practice. Hate speech is a Fascist term used to signify speech which someone feels deserves to be stamped out. Hate speech means ‘speech I believe shouldn’t exist.’ Who gets to decide? Well, like all Fascism the person with the biggest stick, the person who’s willing to commit the most violence to get their way.

I also believe this is very similar to ‘hate crime.’
There is only Crime.
Many crimes contain hateful elements and some are committed out of pure malevolence. But the only way to judge a crime to be a hate crime is to consider what the person was feeling while they were committing the crime. Not what they did but how they felt about it. Very dangerous. In practice this is a technique whereby people can be divided into identity groups and the cost of a crime can be used to denote which groups are deserving of more protection. This has a very corrupting effect on society. And who gets to decide who these groups are? The most powerful agitators.


12 posted on 08/28/2017 10:17:42 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

4Ltr


13 posted on 08/28/2017 11:54:59 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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