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San Bernardino school counselor had gun in her car — prompting an arrest
The San Bernardino Sun ^
| 9/12/2017
| Beatriz Valenzuela and Beau Yarbrough
Posted on 09/13/2017 12:51:39 PM PDT by RightFighter
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It appears that they falsely arrested this woman, at least from the evidence that's come out so far. We are trying to get more information from the police, but as you can see in the article, they are blaming the "court system" for them not giving out any more information. Critically, there are two pieces of information, and only two, that appear to be relevant - whether the gun was (1) unloaded and (2) locked in a container or in the trunk of the car. If both of those conditions are true, then this woman did not violate California law. It seems telling that in the letter sent home to parents from the school, they simply state that "weapons, of any form, are strictly prohibited from school property," and they go on to cite penal code 626.9. However, this is what penal code 626.9 says (I'm omitting the irrelevant sections below this excerpt):
626.9.
(a) This section shall be known, and may be cited, as the Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1995.
(b) Any person who possesses a firearm in a place that the person knows, or reasonably should know, is a school zone, as defined in paragraph (1) of subdivision (e), unless it is with the written permission of the school district superintendent, his or her designee, or equivalent school authority, shall be punished as specified in subdivision (f).
(c) Subdivision (b) does not apply to the possession of a firearm under any of the following circumstances:
(1) Within a place of residence or place of business or on private property, if the place of residence, place of business, or private property is not part of the school grounds and the possession of the firearm is otherwise lawful.
(2) When the firearm is an unloaded pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed on the person and is in a locked container or within the locked trunk of a motor vehicle.
This section does not prohibit or limit the otherwise lawful transportation of any other firearm, other than a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed on the person, in accordance with state law.
To: RightFighter
Here's the letter the school sent home to parents:
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posted on
09/13/2017 12:53:34 PM PDT
by
RightFighter
(This space for rent)
To: RightFighter
No crime here, at least not in free states.
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posted on
09/13/2017 12:53:51 PM PDT
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
To: RightFighter
Police carry guns into schools all the time so obviously, the gun isn’t the problem.
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posted on
09/13/2017 12:54:46 PM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
To: RightFighter
Flat violation of “shall not be infringed”.
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posted on
09/13/2017 12:56:42 PM PDT
by
ctdonath2
(It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
To: RightFighter
The police even said maybe no laws were broken. So why do they do the bidding of the hoplophobic school administration? Because the police are too weak to tell the left-wing parents and the gun-grabbing city government to settle down and learn about the law.
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:04:03 PM PDT
by
WKTimpco
To: RightFighter
That’ll certainly stop the next person who wants to bring a firearm on campus to do harm. If not, we need more anti-gun laws. /sarc
To: RightFighter
The employee said Scott admitted to having a weapon in her vehicle.Loose lips sink ships.
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:07:24 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
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To: ctdonath2
my thoughts exactly. also thinking that she shouldn’t have told anyone about it in the first place. People you think you can trust will frequently stab you in the back like that. She learned that lesson the hard way.
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:08:37 PM PDT
by
RC one
(The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
To: ctdonath2
It’s California- The Infringement State.
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:11:23 PM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(Reset Underway!)
To: Lurkinanloomin
Scott had previously spoken out against violence in 2013 when several people, including students she had interacted with, protested in San Bernardino against injustice and police brutality following the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the high-profile killing of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in Florida.
Sounds like Scott spoke out against the rioting and killing in response to the Zimmerman acquittal.
Could it be that the school is trying to stir up parents against the counselor, or at least make a mountain out of a mole hill? I wonder how someone knew she had a weapon? I would feel very uneasy carrying a weapon in CA due to this craziness.
When the school says she "made no direct threat" it leads one to believe she made an indirect threat. If she made no threat, they should have said she made no threat.
To: RightFighter
Of course they didn’t ID the rat that snitched on her.
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:12:08 PM PDT
by
x1stcav
(We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
To: x1stcav
Of course they didnt ID the rat that snitched on her.
Often rats have more rights than honest citizens. I.E., recently someone charged $1600 to my credit card buying 3 unauthorized items. This rat knows who I am. However, credit card security will not tell me the name of the purchaser who used my card and attempted to steal from me.
To: x1stcav
This school district has its own police force, and that police force has an anonymous tips program for rewards.
WE TIP
If you have any information regarding the person(s) involved in a crime against your school, you are encouraged to call WeTip immediately at either of the numbers listed below. You may be eligible for a reward if your information leads to an arrest and conviction. No one will know who made the call!
Witness Anonymous Toll free nationwide 24 hours
(800) 732-7463 or (800) 78-CRIME
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:20:51 PM PDT
by
RightFighter
(This space for rent)
To: RightFighter
They also have this:
SAW Hotline
Students Against Weapons Hotline
388-6043
Witnesses will stay anonymous.
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:21:53 PM PDT
by
RightFighter
(This space for rent)
To: RightFighter
Bardere said another employee came forward and shared a conversation from the past week about weapons. Never trust a liberal. Ever! Tell them nothing of importance and very little of anything else.
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:22:10 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
To: RC one
There are two reasons that I don’t trust people:
1.) I don’t know them.
2.) I know them.
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:24:58 PM PDT
by
Hugh the Scot
("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
To: AppyPappy
Lots of fine people in California. I have a brother there and my best friend from boyhood.
That being said, I have been there more often since I retired and both my wife and I feel like we are leaving the United States when we go there.
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:26:12 PM PDT
by
KC Burke
(If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
To: RightFighter
Such should seriously be a prime pro-RKBA case. I’m amazed such incidents keep happening, with absolutely no leveraging from our side. So much talk about restoring rights, so much request for legal-fees money, so little progress over decades. Stuff like this should be a slam-dunk.
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:29:11 PM PDT
by
ctdonath2
(It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
To: The_Media_never_lie
...recently someone charged $1600 to my credit card buying 3 unauthorized items. This rat knows who I am. However, credit card security will not tell me the name of the purchaser who used my card and attempted to steal from me. A particular peeve of mine.
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posted on
09/13/2017 1:33:39 PM PDT
by
Mr.Unique
(The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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