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Executive Order that Could Cause Millions to Self-Deport
The Federalist ^ | 09/14/2017 | David Barulich

Posted on 09/19/2017 7:27:45 AM PDT by genghis

This idea to use the tax code as a method for getting businesses to replace illegals with legal workers is amazing! Trump could do an executive order and put this in place immediately.

It's even better than building a wall because a border wall doesn't do anything about the illegals who are already here. This article describes something that would cause millions of illegals thrown out of work to deport themselves. No ICE round-ups necessary. No need to wait for Congress!!!!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; daca; selfdeportation; taxes; third100days; trumpillegals; winning
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To: Ancesthntr

Whenever you form an LLC or Corporation, you have to list an “Agent for Service of Process,” and provide a real name and address.

At least in California, there is an $800 minimum annual tax to maintain a corporation or LLC, even if there is no income earned. Other states are similar.

As was noted in an earlier post, the existing labor laws won’t permit a wholesale relabeling of actual employees as independent contractors paid through an LLC or corporation set up by the employee. The states and Federal government want their tax withholding payments made (FICA, Income Tax, workman’s compensation, unemployment taxes, etc.), and they won’t tolerate this kind of end-around maneuver. It would be shut down.


101 posted on 09/19/2017 3:48:44 PM PDT by genghis
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To: Ancesthntr

Whenever you form an LLC or Corporation, you have to list an “Agent for Service of Process,” and provide a real name and address.

At least in California, there is an $800 minimum annual tax to maintain a corporation or LLC, even if there is no income earned. Other states are similar.

As was noted in an earlier post, the existing labor laws won’t permit a wholesale relabeling of actual employees as independent contractors paid through an LLC or corporation set up by the employee. The states and Federal government want their tax withholding payments made (FICA, Income Tax, workman’s compensation, unemployment taxes, etc.), and they won’t tolerate this kind of end-around maneuver. It would be shut down.


102 posted on 09/19/2017 3:48:58 PM PDT by genghis
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To: Tammy8

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Easy to say, except you know realistically that will never happen.
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Correct. We’ve no recognized Rights outside of what the Judiciary decrees, the Executive wishes to allow and the Legislative doesn’t trample.

We’re no longer a Republic. Know it’s over when the supposed defenders of the Const. scream, “Don’t touch *my* SS/MediXYZ”, as if they paid/earned anything.

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We are already tightening up on social services, we just have to keep tightening up more and more as we go along.
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Tightening? When & where? We had Zero, w/ his pen/phone, wipe out all prior welfare minimums. The (R) response? *crickets*

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This is like a puzzle and welfare is just one of the pieces, there is no magic one thing fixes all. Many things must work together to solve the many issues.
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Welfare is a HUGE chunk. Another is non-enforcement of any/all Law (unless vs. Citizens).

If we only still ran pols out on rails or the Law worked in OUR favor...


103 posted on 09/19/2017 4:09:36 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Ancesthntr

That’s what I was looking for. Thank you.


104 posted on 09/19/2017 4:37:09 PM PDT by enduserindy ( I always smile when my competition doubles down on stupid.)
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To: i_robot73

Welfare is a huge issue, but only a piece of the illegal issues puzzle. Welfare will never just be ended. The only way to do anything about welfare is to cut the budget and keep cutting the budget while going after fraud and waste.

The liberals are crying that social service funding was cut in the short budget that was passed and cut even further in the proposed upcoming budget so when they holler we are making some progress. I haven’t looked at it so I don’t know details.

Yes I know Obama handed out social services like candy but we still can’t just end it. The will of the people is not there yet. Many are wanting to cut it though so that is a start.


105 posted on 09/19/2017 4:59:02 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Ancesthntr

I would have no problem if we did a few for intimidation. We can’t allow things like that to bog us down and cause judges to step in and stop other progress though.

What I want and what I think will work are two different things.


106 posted on 09/19/2017 5:00:47 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: genghis

Just outlaw Ca$h and make all transaction electronic for transfer of funds.


107 posted on 09/19/2017 7:03:39 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: ontap

I pay a good ole boy to do my lawn. As a bonus, my dogs love the guy.


108 posted on 09/19/2017 7:12:46 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Tammy8

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Welfare is a huge issue, but only a piece of the illegal issues puzzle. Welfare will never just be ended. The only way to do anything about welfare is to cut the budget and keep cutting the budget while going after fraud and waste.
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Correct. It’s not like we have inalienable Rights or anything anyway. Federalism & the Constitution? F* ‘em.

What ‘fraud & waste’? Pelosi and the gang say there’s no such thing. Does the IRS go after the known fraudsters? Only MediXYZ fraud that’s BLATANT ever gets an arrest. $6B lost @ State? 80+ programs of overlap? What waste?

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The liberals are crying that social service funding was cut in the short budget that was passed and cut even further in the proposed upcoming budget so when they holler we are making some progress. I haven’t looked at it so I don’t know details.
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Progress? I don’t recall any budget passed in some time....only CRs and X-bus’. Plus, a reduction in the % of increase isn’t a ‘CUT’; I damn sure don’t recall the deficit =< $0%. The (D) will cry about ANY drop in funds/growth of govt/control, and the Federal Reg. hasn’t slowed down printing more tomes for the masses.

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Yes I know Obama handed out social services like candy but we still can’t just end it.
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Yes. Yes we can. Legally, it MUST. Except, too many keep re-electing their ‘abusive spouse’, hoping they’ll change....THIS time. The false dichotomy is quite powerful to the sheeple.

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The will of the people is not there yet. Many are wanting to cut it though so that is a start.
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Will of the People? You mean the minority, whose Rights for which the Constitution, via the govt, was to protect vs. the majority\govt?? Unless I missed an Amendment/two in Civics (back when they actually semi-TAUGHT civics).


109 posted on 09/20/2017 5:19:55 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73

We have had some sort of assistance to the poor since the colonies, that is never going away.

We do need to cut back to help only those that are unable to work and provide for themselves. I think we need to have something like the work programs during the Depression to employ people who are able to work and not working. There were many improvements made by those working in those programs. My uncle was in the CCC as a teen and said it was great for teaching him work ethic. He said the work was hard manual labor and the pay was nearly nothing so there was a big incentive to find actual work ASAP.

“The history of welfare in the U.S. started long before the government welfare programs we know were created. In the early days of the United States, the colonies imported the British Poor Laws. These laws made a distinction between those who were unable to work due to their age or physical health and those who were able-bodied but unemployed. The former group was assisted with cash or alternative forms of help from the government. The latter group was given public service employment in workhouses.”

http://www.welfareinfo.org/history/


110 posted on 09/20/2017 6:21:27 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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We have had some sort of assistance to the poor since the colonies, that is never going away.

“The history of welfare in the U.S. started long before the government welfare programs we know were created. In the early days of the United States, the colonies imported the British Poor Laws. These laws made a distinction between those who were unable to work due to their age or physical health and those who were able-bodied but unemployed. The former group was assisted with cash or alternative forms of help from the government. The latter group was given public service employment in workhouses.”

http://www.welfareinfo.org/history/
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I care not for ‘what we had’, we were not the Republic were are supposed to be. Either the Constitution means what it says, or none at all. There can be no middle.

With our independence, so were our Rights re-affirmed: secure in our papers/places and no property taken w/o just compensation. Re-inforced w/ the passage of the 13th (though, ‘passed’ under coercion): slavery shall not exist.

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We do need to cut back to help only those that are unable to work and provide for themselves.
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And, *WHOM* gets to determine those ‘qualifications’?? Please define ‘unable’. Aid? By how much and in what capacity? Shall they be given a ‘living wage’? Paid by whom?

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I think we need to have something like the work programs during the Depression to employ people who are able to work and not working. There were many improvements made by those working in those programs. My uncle was in the CCC as a teen and said it was great for teaching him work ethic. He said the work was hard manual labor and the pay was nearly nothing so there was a big incentive to find actual work ASAP.
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Yes, those ‘work programs’ (another unconstitutional example) which aided to extended the Depression; caused by the creature of their own (illegal) making: The Fed. Reserve.

No one is stopping another to do as they wish with their OWN property. Quite another for OTHERS to be determining ‘winners vs. losers’ and picking the pockets of the multitude for such ‘generosity’.


111 posted on 09/21/2017 10:25:44 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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