Posted on 10/17/2017 10:52:16 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
A global tipping point for electric cars could come as early as 2022, as battery costs decrease and concerns about range and infrastructure ease. That’s from analysts at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, who in a little over a year’s time have turned even more optimistic about the future dominance of electric cars over internal-combustion vehicles. In a Tuesday note, the analysts forecast that one in three cars will be purely electric by 2030; their July 2016 prediction was one in 10 by the same year. “There are several factors converging that have led us to revise our thinking — a combination of changing customer preferences, increasingly viable product, regulation, and infrastructure,” they said in the note.
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He’s saying “few are using it for recharging their vehicles”.
“Even high performance street sports cars cannot endure a long race.”
Sure they can. NASCAR was invented for that very reason.
Today’s muscle cars are just as reliable as any car, which is far more reliable than yesterday’s cars. You must be very young not to know that.
“Lets have a 600 mile race. You get Tesla and I get a Corvette. Who is going to win?”
OK. Have to have two couples with luggage pulling a boat ...
And you are allowed only $1.00 TO SPEND ON FUEL!
When they get there, then you have something that may change the dynamic, until you get there, you have a lot of nice water cooler talk.
10 minute or less to go at least 300 miles, carrying reasonable cargo/passengers... If I can’t pile the kids and the mrs in the car and go at least 300 miles before I have to stop (preferrably far more) you aren’t replacing the typical combustion vehicle for most people.
Will it get there someday? Probably, but it ain’t there yet.
Right now the purely electric car is a commuter vehicle/second vehicle/toy for the wealthy... Hell for nearly 20 years now hybrids have been in the market place, and their percentage of the market while growing are miniscule... just over 4 Million have been sold in the US by April of last year... 1999-April 2016. At the same time the average total new cars sold per year over that same period is 15-16 Million per year... so 4 Million over 16+ years has cumulatively equaled 1/4 of 1 years worth of US car sales.
Electric is not poised to replace the combustion engine yet. Not even close. One day it may get there, but predictions that we are 30 years away from electrical car sales being 90% of those sold? I think that’s some pie in the sky dreaming. Well other than government MANDATING it, I don’t see that sort of market penetration... Because to replace something you can’t just “be as good as”.. you have to be better... And they haven’t even gotten to “as good as” yet.... let alone better than.
One day they likely will find an alternative to combustion power, that’s practical and affordable, but its not there yet.... Let alone should they manage to overcome the technical issues with the vehicles themselves, the US power grid can’t remotely handle 90% of vehicles drawing from it... Which means shortages and price spikes and even possible rolling blackouts.
There is far far more to mainstreaming the electric only car, than a research group claiming they have a better battery. It may eventually get there, but the prediction of 90% within 30 years is going to require a lot more movement than we currently are seeing in this space.
“It is also absurd to think people will charge their cars at night when they are hom”
95% of ev charging is done at the home ...
“Come out of your cave, already! EVERYONE IS USING ELECTRICITY!”
I know your reading comprehension is that of a third grader so I’ll explain it a little more clearly, since you are idiotic enough o think I was saying everyone doesn’t have electricity: Capacity, moron! We are using far less electricity than we have capacity is more places, not all though. Some places are already saturated. Add in EV cars and the grid and power producing plants will be saturated.
Jeez, you’re dumb!
I notice all these predictors and advocated neatly deceive by what they don’t talk about. How will the electricity be produced to accommodate plugging in the electric cars if we have less than 10% gas cars? They act as if it is as simple as just “plugging it in”. Yeah, when less than 1% of cars are electric. Over 60% from fossil fuels.
Surprised as in this link 5% is from wind. I am frankly surprised it is that high considering how unreliable it is.
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3
“95% of ev charging is done at the home ...”
The other moron on this thread claimed people could get solar for their EV cars, you know, so they can charge at night when they are home...did that just go over your head?? I bet it did. Let me explain is s.l.o.w.l.y to you...
T.h.e.r.e i.s.n.’.t a.n.y s.u.n a.t n.i.g.h.t w.h.e.n p.e.o.p.l.e a.r.e h.o.m.e f.o.r s.o.l.a.r c.e.l.l.s t.o u.s.e t.o c.h.a.r.g.e t.h.e.i.r v.e.h.i.c.l.e.s.
“It won’t be until the 2040’s that the electric car recharging infrastructure will be common enough to finally replace the gasoline-powered car.”
Tesla has over 10,000 charging stations and partners with hotels etc. for thousands more.
As far as I know, probably every home has 20 amp circuits available to charge cars.
Gaslone stop gives me about 450 miles in 5 minutes... and I can find a fuel pump at just about every interstate exit, not plan my my trip around where an electric recharging station might be... you can’t win this..
Electric is not remotely where it needs to be to replace combustion. Will it get there? Someday it may, but its not remotely there yet.
Its a commuter, second vehicle, toy for the wealthy niche market, and it will be for the foreseeable future.
Hell, hybrids have been around and proven and viable for nearly 20 years now, and their cumulative sales in the US are about 1/4 of 1 years worth of overall car sales....Pure Electric? Not gaining 90% of the market anytime soon, sort of regulatory FORCE...
Secondly, it will dismantle the complex energy production complex (gasoline) to a simple more centralized one (electrical energy producers).
but we will have solar electric in the future. panels built into the doors, hood, trunk and roof. Very little charging at night in certain areas of the country or during summer. In 20 years everything will look and be different. If we don’t lead. theJapanese or the Germans or the Chinese will.
Not a dumb question, just on that NO ONE advocating electric cars ever wants to speak to.
“Today’s muscle cars are just as reliable as any car, which is far more reliable than yesterday’s cars. You must be very young not to know that.”
You take your mustang camaro or challenger to the track and touch will quickly see it won’t compete with the race prepared cars. In short time the brakes transmission and rear end will be toast from over heating.
BTW, I am 70 and have a 670 hp Mustang GT with performance package.
“Gaslone stop gives me about 450 miles in 5 minutes... and I can find a fuel pump at just about every interstate exit, not plan my my trip around where an electric recharging station might be... you can’t win this..”
Tesla has over 10,000 super charging stations, mostly located along the interstates.
There are over 168,000 Gas Stations in the US... not pumps.. STATIONS... a charging station is the equivalent of a single pump.... So take that number and multiply it by an average of about 8 pumps per station anymore and you have over 1 Million gas pumps in the US... 10,000 niche stations in hotel parking garages ain’t going to get you where you need to go.
Electric is a niche.. commuter/second car, toy for the wealthy... and that’s where its going to stay for the forseeable future. Eventually it may be able to compete with combustion.... but its NOWHERE near that today... and the idea it will be 90% of the market in 30 years is pipe dream... only regularly mandating will cause that sort of market shift.
To take out an old technolgoy you not only have to meet it, you have to beat it, and Electric isn’t remotely able to meet, let alone beat combustion... its not going to be 90% of the sales volume in 30 years unless consumers are forced to buy it.
“you can’t win this..”
Win what?
“There are over 168,000 Gas Stations in the US... “
Once there were less than 10 gas stations! Your point?
I think they actually do think that. Remember the photo op where there were protesters in plastic kayaks “blocking” a supertanker? Just oblivious.
Why do we need solar panels that have little economic viability when we already have electricity capabilities that are economic??
Technology for the sake of technology is retarded.
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