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Column: Pull your party together, Democrats
Chicago Tribune ^ | November 7, 2017 | by Clarence Page

Posted on 11/07/2017 12:14:38 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

As Democrats once again find themselves facing questions about Hillary Clinton’s campaign, raised this time by the party’s former interim chairwoman Donna Brazile, one stands out: Why did Clinton bother with manipulating party rules when she was going to win anyway?

“Why not welcome (Vermont Sen. Bernie) Sanders and the energy he undoubtedly would (and did) bring into the party,” writes Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone, “rather than scheme to lock him and others out?”

Good question. Taibbi doesn’t really try to answer it, but a year after Donald Trump’s surprising presidential victory, it matters.

Like generals who keep refighting old wars on new battlefields, Democrats are still arguing over whether the 2016 primaries were “rigged” against Sanders, nominee Clinton’s strongest rival.

After their many years of persecution from the right and the nosiness of us journalists, the Clintons too often have seemed to care more about legality and not enough about the appearance of impropriety, which can be just as damaging in politics as the real thing.

Like Richard Nixon, the Clintons seemed to build a fortress mentality that, in Hillary Clinton’s campaign, shut her off from the pro-Trump rebellion building outside Washington’s Beltway.

Now, of course, it is a time for both parties to be looking to the future, not rehashing the past. Yet Democrats need to understand where they’ve been in order to avoid snatching more defeats out of the jaws of victory.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; journalism; media; socialism

1 posted on 11/07/2017 12:14:38 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

...Clarence, not such a wonderful life, is it?


2 posted on 11/07/2017 12:16:33 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (FUMSM)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
After their many years of persecution from the right and the nosiness of us journalists, the Clintons too often have seemed to care more about legality and not enough about the appearance of impropriety

Sigh.

That ol' Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy can really take a toll on you, eh?
And the press! The press just never let the Clintons catch a break! My word!

And yes -- of course! -- the Clintons were strictly legal in everything they did! Uh huh. Yessir, yessir. They were very careful about that. It just, ya know, seemed completely unethical, immoral, perverted, dishonest, and criminal. That's all.

3 posted on 11/07/2017 12:26:21 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“Why not welcome (Vermont Sen. Bernie) Sanders and the energy he undoubtedly would (and did) bring into the party,” writes Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone, “rather than scheme to lock him and others out?”

Never heard about the scorpion and the frog?

4 posted on 11/07/2017 12:26:21 PM PST by jim macomber ("Bargained for Exchange" "Art & Part" "A Grave Breach" "Sovereign Order " - www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As the Democrats see it, politics is dirty and if you’re not cheating, you aren’t winning. Winning is everything and anything you do to win is okay, regardless of who gets hurt because...moral high ground! It’s what you intend to accomplish that is important, not how you do it.


5 posted on 11/07/2017 12:26:31 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Why did Clinton bother with manipulating party rules when she was going to win anyway?

You could aks the same question about why demonicRATS engaged in voter fraud and paid to have a fake dossier of Donald Trump created when she was going to win anyway.

6 posted on 11/07/2017 12:35:00 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Why did Clinton bother with manipulating party rules when she was going to win anyway?

I'm sorry. You were saying?

7 posted on 11/07/2017 12:41:33 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

the Democrat squandered any credibility they had by trying to put lipstick on a pig, if that wasn’t enough they ran a nag in a real horse race. Even after the shellacking they received in the 2016 election they cannot get past the fact their nag lost big time


8 posted on 11/07/2017 12:42:24 PM PST by okie 54
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To: jim macomber

The real answer is the Witch is a control freak, obsessed by her loss to Obola in 2008, who was absolutely determined to do everything in her power to win in 2016. That victory, to her, meant she had to build Clinton Death Star, which she built. It worked as designed against other DemonRats but, possibly due to Devine Intervention, failed against our PRESIDENT Trump. Thank you, God.


9 posted on 11/07/2017 12:45:47 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Texas Eagle

You could ask Donna Brazile why she gave “the smartest woman in the room” the debate questions ahead of time, too.


10 posted on 11/07/2017 12:47:02 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Current DNC chair Tom Perez agrees. Among other arguments, he points out that Sanders tended to lose primary elections, which are controlled by the states, but won caucuses, which are run by the DNC.

Irrelevant. Recall that no matter what the outcome of either, Hillary already had enough committed super-delegates to win the nomination. Those were party-named and -controlled, and the party was Hillary-controlled. The fix was most transparently in.

Much of this current angst among the Dems stems from a suspicion that she still does own the process. The Brazile book may serve to shine a searchlight on that but not to do very much about it. If the heavy donors Clinton was so good at milking and are now a little peeved that their quid pro quo isn't going to quid decide to donate their money directly to the DNC in the future the latter may have a chance to break free. Right now the concern is that they're cash-short and staring at 2018 and Hill is still bitching about the Russians. Gridlock.

11 posted on 11/07/2017 12:51:46 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Calvin Locke

I just about fell out of my chair when I hear Donna say that the primary wasn’t rigged just because Hillary was keeping the DNC funded.

Really. The person that is PAYING THE BILLS is not influencing the party?

Really. Then why would she fund it?

...all from the mouth of the person that was handing Hillary the questions!

It’s astonishing. Truly astonishing.


12 posted on 11/07/2017 12:54:25 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hmmm, there seems to be a gorilla in the room.

What party? Is there really a functioning DNC at this time?

Obama and Hillary destroyed it. Obama pushed the platform so far left it’s literally fallen off the cliff.

“No” to God
“No” to the unborn
“No” to whiteness
“No” to cis-gender males
“Yes” to all things queer
“Yes” to radical feminists
“Yes” to Islam (^^^ doesn’t compute)

They might as well be called the ACSWM party - the “Anti Christian Straight White Male” party. That’s no recipe for winning.

Hillary corrupted it. Do they assume those that voted for Bernie will just vote Democrat moving forward?

Who are their leaders now? It is a complete collapse, there is no path to pull themselves together.


13 posted on 11/07/2017 1:01:53 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic

What I find astonishing is the how the LSM plays along with the BS.


14 posted on 11/07/2017 1:07:43 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.

If you Democrats (I’m speaking rhetorically here) really DID believe in being actually liberal, then none of this crap would be going down among you. You aren’t even giving people a viable choice any more. It’s all descended into games of pretend. If Republicans, as you claim, are selfish, at least they aren’t hiding it. But as for liberal, that describes how you Democrats are funneling goodies to your own from the taxpayers.


15 posted on 11/07/2017 1:08:32 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Why did Clinton bother

For the same reason that Clinton&Co were out of touch with reality in fly-over country, they were disproportionately close to Bernie supporters. They partied with them. They slept with them. They gossipped with them.

The experience of those on the Clinton payroll was that there were Bernie supporters everywhere.

No more Clinton! No more Bush! That was the #1 post on the internet in Dec 2014 after the Nov 2014 election the #1 political statement on the internet, on both conservative and liberal and mainstream/mixed chat rooms and comments sections. So even before Bernie became a problem, the Clinton people were aware that massive numbers of people on Huff, Politico, Reddit, etal were anti-Clinton. If not Bernie, Biden or Ben-n-Jerry would have been a threat to them.

16 posted on 11/07/2017 1:57:16 PM PST by spintreebob
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