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1 posted on 11/19/2017 6:43:52 AM PST by Popman
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“What is truth, if we no longer live in an age of reason? A discomfort exists amongst all. What is true has been abandoned, for what advances the interest of my tribe, or the will of my masters? It is seemingly no longer possible to reason a way forward, but to exert a force of will, to advance one’s particular worldview. In this, we Conservatives are at a disadvantage, and in my opinion, will represent our eventual demise.”


2 posted on 11/19/2017 6:47:19 AM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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Plato's cave is an extraordinary concept, well illustrated. This thread should have at least one example...


3 posted on 11/19/2017 6:53:08 AM PST by C210N (It is easier to fool the people than convince them that they have been fooled)
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Good stuff. A grouping of concrete things (beauty) under abstract terms. Someone could try to decribe what is outside the cave, and it can be rejected based on already perceived beliefs.
4 posted on 11/19/2017 6:57:53 AM PST by corlorde
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“Images shone on a wall (television screens, cell-phone, laptops) portraying what our captors wish for us to believe (is reality). “

All paid for by marketeers.
Who profit from consumption; a culture of consumption.
So that is what this ‘piper who calls the tune’ (our “captors”) presents as “good”.
The mob loves that message and the government loves to please the mob.


6 posted on 11/19/2017 7:03:47 AM PST by mrsmith (Me too.)
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It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie; and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

The Obama regime set the stage for the ultimate suppression of dissent but, I think, was not confident of its ability to do so. Hillary was going to take that extra step. I saw more than one Hillary bot post on a forum that they were looking forward to marching all conservatives into "camps," and I have no doubt that we were heading in that direction.

President Trump's election was a direct response to that threat. Now, I can only hope that he can bring down the foundations of that American totalitarian dictatorship, rather than just being a stumbling block in its inexorable advance.

7 posted on 11/19/2017 7:03:51 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Bump


8 posted on 11/19/2017 7:03:56 AM PST by Fzob (Let the saving love of Christ be the measure of our lives.)
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10 posted on 11/19/2017 7:10:25 AM PST by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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From the comments: “Tocqueville, after the debacle of the French Revolution and Reign of Terror, quipped that the French peasants “neither understood freedom nor wanted it.” The release from Serfdom was not to embrace the free markets of the petty bourgeoisie but to demand equality in privilege and to take revenge on those who previously enjoyed privilege.”


22 posted on 11/19/2017 7:52:09 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Tocqueville put it much more succinctly...

“There is a passion for equality that spurs all men to wish to be strong and esteemed. This passion tends to elevate the lesser to the rank of the greater. But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level [Class Warfare], and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom.”


23 posted on 11/19/2017 8:00:31 AM PST by aquila48
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie; and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

It doesn't get more Machiavellian than the above - totalitarian at it's more evil...

29 posted on 11/19/2017 8:46:28 AM PST by GOPJ (https://www.reddit.com/r/StumpSheet/comments/6ec3z1/fake_hate_crimes_official/)
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Ultimately, we are participants in the endgame of Satan’s war with God.

The ever increasing noise of fake news currently plaguing us is both a sign and a milemarker of where we are in our story and in the war swirling around us and for us.

The closer we get to the end of these times, of this epoch, the more God sends us His signs and His prophets to warn us and prepare us for His return.

And on the other side, Satan, as usual, apes God and does similar things to counter God’s efforts, sending us his false prophets to sow his weed seeds of confusion and dissention.

Taking a measure of we, the harvest to be, it’s hard to imagine our becoming much more confused and divided about truth and reality than we are now, but we’re not there, yet.

We have been given over to our grand delusions of how things are and how they ought to be and it’s best to not underestimate to power of motivated mass delusion.

Instead, just keep Him as your focus at all times and the false prophets of these times won’t be able to deceive you with their fake news, nor will they steal your peace.

No worries. He’s got this. Have faith.

30 posted on 11/19/2017 8:55:21 AM PST by GBA (A = 432)
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It is much easier to mount a force of will, when all of your forces pull in the same direction, without question. In this, as a top-down, command and control ideology, the Left have an advantage. Leftist masters determine a path forward, which gets disseminated throughout their institutions of influence. Their foot-soldiers then advance on the path until they’ve secured victory. See any man on the street video, where these clowns are asked to articulate why they’re protesting.

The men who wrote the Constitution were aware of totalitarian tactics... if we can keep the country running under the Constitution and NOT under 'fashion ideas of the moment by twisted power hungry elites' we can win. And yes, liberal elites are using every totalitarian tactic they can get away with... which (thank God) is not that many in a free country running under a Bill of Rights...

31 posted on 11/19/2017 8:57:16 AM PST by GOPJ (https://www.reddit.com/r/StumpSheet/comments/6ec3z1/fake_hate_crimes_official/)
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Another Goebbels quote that is especially relevant today:

"When lying, tell the Big Lie. The Big Lie will always work because people have a limited capacity to comprehend deception on a grand scale."

As we can see, our government -- and large parts of our culture -- are little more than deceptions on a grand scale. We're being ruled by the Big Lie:

Antifa -- We oppose fascism.
BLM -- It's about Black Lives.
LBTQMFEIEIO -- Homosexuality is the same as heterosexuality.
Climate change -- no science but an endless apocalyptic drumbeat
Feminazism -- Men and women are the same
Russia, Russia, Russia ...
Islime is just another religion.
Diversity is strength.
Hollywood is a moral exemplar.
Democrats are the party of the working man.
Communism works.

32 posted on 11/19/2017 9:06:40 AM PST by IronJack
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" Images shone on a wall ... portraying what
our captors wish for us to believe (is reality)."
35 posted on 11/19/2017 10:10:58 AM PST by sparklite2 (-)
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