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The Climate Crisis? It’s Capitalism, Stupid
New York Times ^ | November 20, 2017 | by Benjamin Y. Fong

Posted on 11/20/2017 6:59:24 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Even casual readers of the news know that the earth is probably going to look very different in 2100, and not in a good way. [snip]

The real culprit of the climate crisis is not any particular form of consumption, production or regulation but rather the very way in which we globally produce, which is for profit rather than for sustainability. So long as this order is in place, the crisis will continue and, given its progressive nature, worsen. This is a hard fact to confront. But averting our eyes from a seemingly intractable problem does not make it any less a problem. It should be stated plainly: It’s capitalism that is at fault.

As an increasing number of environmental groups are emphasizing, it’s systemic change or bust. From a political standpoint, something interesting has occurred here: Climate change has made anticapitalist struggle, for the first time in history, a non-class-based issue.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: climatechangefraud; globalism; globalwarming; hoax; journalism; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; partisanmediashills
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If they hate capitalism, they are free to redistribute their wealth or leave for another country.


21 posted on 11/20/2017 7:25:14 AM PST by EdnaMode
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To: butlerweave
Not just China. For environmental disasters and pollution on a truly apocalyptic scale, one need only look to Communist, or formerly-Communist nations. Sure, the US has had places like the Love Canal and Three Mile Island, and Canada has places like the infamous Sydney Tar-Ponds, but these tend to be small and localised. It takes a Communist nation to destroy the entire Aral Sea, to produce a place like Copșa Mică, Romania; to produce Chernobyl, or Kyshtym, or to completely denude and destroy the Chinese Loess Plains... The list goes on and on. The New Jersey chemical swamps, the Athabasca Oil Sands, and the other, aforementioned North American places and incidents pale by comparison.
22 posted on 11/20/2017 7:27:23 AM PST by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Fattening the Golden Calf before the Marxist slaughter has always been an implicit feature of commie idiotology.

What fun would it be to take over the farmhouse if the whiskey cabinet was empty and there were no beds to sleep in... wif or wifout sheets?


23 posted on 11/20/2017 7:31:29 AM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Garbage.

Take the time to “follow the money” on how the climate alarmists propose to “solve” climate change and it is scary.

Carbon “emitters”, as determined by government, must pay for carbon credits, as managed by Wall Street. The funds for said credits go to third world hands who supposedly plant enough trees to balance out the carbon.

It is a system designed for greed, obscene profits and corruption where everyone including the tree planter, takes a hefty cut.


24 posted on 11/20/2017 7:36:34 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No the problem is population


25 posted on 11/20/2017 7:42:37 AM PST by woodmiser
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Shallow, superficial thinking is symptomatic of environmentalism and so-called sustainability. Capitalism requires genuine sustainability. Responsible capitalism (the only kind that works) protects the source of raw materials.

Environmentalist wackos define capitalism as any means of production not controlled by the state. Rape and plunder is not capitalism. It is rape and plunder. Capitalism is not sustainable with rape and plunder as a model. Capitalism is a system of production. It is not simply the abandonment of all sense in the drive to get something.
Destroying the rain forests of Brazil with mercury poisoning as a means of extracting gold is not sustainable. It kills the laborer, destroys the rivers, kills the wildlife and toxifies the environment. It is not a sustainable means of production. It is not a capitalist means of production.


26 posted on 11/20/2017 7:48:09 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: BenLurkin

They are called Watermelons

Green on the outside, red on the inside.


27 posted on 11/20/2017 7:50:45 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Kriggerel

“The list goes on and on. The New Jersey chemical swamps, the Athabasca Oil Sands, and the other, aforementioned North American places and incidents pale by comparison.”

You must not have driven through California lately. Take a cruise through the mojave, or the sonora, or the imperial valley, or many places in the coastal range. Literally thousands of square miles permanently destroyed by seas of solar panels, and jungles of windmills in the hundreds, hundreds of feet high, sitting on bases of concrete and killing birds. This is by far the greatest crime against humanity ever perpetuated, and yet nobody seems to care, they are so obssesed that the atmosphere gas 4 molecules CO2 for every 10000. Truly an epic crime against the planet


28 posted on 11/20/2017 7:53:48 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There’s one thing that will almost certainly
* make production more efficient
* make better use of land
* make more efficient use of resources
* make common people’s lives better

That one thing is to “let people get rich”. They have to be allowed to get rich off their ideas, not government money (which will run out before Musk solves all world problems) The first 3 things will make wealth for those who implement the best ideas and will result in the 4th.

The one thing most likely to stop or slow any of those goals is to “get government involved”. Even deciding who makes money (Musk) or how (which technology), will stop many potential solutions while letting the government choose one that is likely not the best.

Governments get excited about single-digit percentage improvement and encourage those with low-risk efforts that are guaranteed to “show progress”. Entrepreneurs get excited about orders of magnitude improvements and accept they will fail often. Greenie goals need orders of magnitude progress.


29 posted on 11/20/2017 8:07:57 AM PST by LostPassword
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I always take my scientific advice from a PhD in religion....not.


30 posted on 11/20/2017 8:23:41 AM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Environmentalists have been watermelons (green on the outside, red on the inside) for a very long time.

Real environmentalists would be for nuclear power and against massive immigration.

For leftists, the issue is never the issue. The issue is always how they can seize power.

The “climate change” propaganda is one of their best selling schemes yet.


31 posted on 11/20/2017 8:26:44 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

All true, but what this article is actually promoting is a totalitarian government. Communism will lead to this, as it always has, but the real manner the “save the world” intelligentsia want to use is to take complete power with the ability to define everything that people do and have.

So it is a power grab, and always has been.


32 posted on 11/20/2017 8:39:23 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: Maceman

The interesting thing about the Figueres quote is that - even as a top UN “climate official” - she is basically admitting that the basic agenda of the climate lobby is about macro-economics, not “climate control.” “Climate change” is just the gun at your head to force you to comply by giving up your freedoms, money, and prosperity. But the masters will keep theirs.


33 posted on 11/20/2017 9:16:32 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
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34 posted on 11/20/2017 10:54:20 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Leftist get everything wrong. You can sue a privately owned power plant. You cannot sue one owned by the North Korean or Chinese communist governmemts.


35 posted on 11/20/2017 11:41:01 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: woodmiser

Soylent Green


36 posted on 11/20/2017 12:11:28 PM PST by chief lee runamok
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