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To: smileyface
"where he had sex with a married staffer until she passed out "

Stuff like this is where the story starts to sound fishy..

Unless the room was soundproof, or she was tied up and gagged and unable to scream, I have a hard time believing this statement.

Having had sex once or twice I vaguely remember it does not involve someone 'passing out'

I am not saying Matt Lauer is guilty or innocent- but this one statement lacks credible detail, although it is the main charge against him.

That is usually the sign of deception. Giving great detail about trivial things, but zooming right over the most significant part of the story.

9 posted on 11/30/2017 4:27:09 AM PST by Mr. K (There is no consequence of repealing Obamacare that is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Mr. K

Stuff like this is where the story starts to sound fishy..

Absolutely agree.

I have NO Doubt that SOME of these allegations of past misconduct are true and are very wrenching for the ladies involved.

But, really...this is getting ridiculous. “She said” is now the pronouncement of guilt. [See Garrison Keillor also...]


14 posted on 11/30/2017 4:35:23 AM PST by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: Mr. K

“Having had sex once or twice I vaguely remember it does not involve someone ‘passing out’”

If given date rape drug, passing out could be possible.


15 posted on 11/30/2017 4:36:26 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ( "Freedom is not free; Free men are not equal, and Equal men are not free". Richard Berkeley Cotten)
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To: Mr. K

Women can be raped to death, so the passing out part - and in fact the whole story - is quite believable. He was probably up to the gills in Viagra and thought this was proving what a stud he was. Like Hugh Hefner, Lauer was a sex-obsessed, powerful sicko. (Some of the women Hugh Hefner brought to his place had to be taken to the hospital afterwards, although Hefner didn’t do it himself but hired male porn stars with huge equipment so he could watch their pain.)

As for the door, the doors in an executive suite are often very thick, precisely to prevent sounds from being audible outside. Theoretically, this is to prevent eavesdropping on high-level conversations. Having a lock on such a door that can be controlled remotely is not unusual.


20 posted on 11/30/2017 4:44:17 AM PST by livius
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To: Mr. K

Yes, there are some missing steps in the story. I’m content concluding that Lauer is a truly reprehensible person, but I’m not sure he could be convicted of anything based on this particular fact pattern.


46 posted on 11/30/2017 5:24:37 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Mr. K

read and put details together. it’s usually simplest and best way to understand things.

she was bent over a chair which could limit oxygen and make her pass out.

heck some people’s body’s are dense, heavy and just them on top of you can limit your breathing ability let alone having actions done against your wanting at the same time.


50 posted on 11/30/2017 5:26:50 AM PST by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: Mr. K
Having had sex once or twice I vaguely remember it does not involve someone 'passing out'

LOL--I have not sex in such a long time that I would probably pass out---
75 posted on 11/30/2017 7:35:46 AM PST by scott says (Psalm 1)
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