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To: gov_bean_ counter

No it doesn’t repeal it!! Not a single bit! That’s like saying someone will willing drop their employer supplemented healthcare just because! This mantra that it will kill it is a load of crap! Tax payer supplemented and funded Obamacare is still there! People who use Obamacare to receive free healthcare will still use it. Those that don’t have health insurance but need it will still use it! All laws with respect to Obamacare still exist.

Spin spin spin


20 posted on 12/20/2017 9:52:31 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: Jarhead9297

It does repeal it since it won’t survive without being funded by healthy people forced into it.


65 posted on 12/20/2017 11:47:35 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Jarhead9297
‘essentially’ repeals ObamaCare, Jarhead9297 wrote:
No it doesn’t repeal it!! Not a single bit! That’s like saying someone will willing drop their employer supplemented health-care just because! This mantra that it will kill it is a load of crap! Tax payer supplemented and funded Obamacare is still there! People who use Obamacare to receive free healthcare will still use it. Those that don’t have health insurance but need it will still use it! All laws with respect to Obamacare still exist.

I realize that there are some semantics involved here, but you and many others here completely miss the point that President Trump is trying to make. Without the mandate people will once again be able legally purchase insurance that does not comply with all of the special interest Obamacare requirements that have doubled and tripled the cost of health insurance. Non-compliant alternatives are for the most place not available at this time because of the Obamacare "mandate".

Why does this matter? I do not think that you and many others here understand this at all. Here is how it affects my wife and I. We previously had health insurance that became unaffordable because of Obamacare. So we switched to Christian Healthcare Ministries “coverage” which has many advantages over traditional insurance, but a few disadvantages as well.

For us Christian Healthcare Ministries costs less than a quarter of the traditional health insurance we had previously and in many cases provides better coverage and it has an exclusion from the Obamacare mandate. But it does require one to do a lot of the leg work that people normally expect insurance companies take care of like negotiating for a lower price from providers.

Unfortunately because of IRS requirements we cannot pay for Christian Healthcare Ministries with retirement funds that that were earmarked to pay for “health insurance”. These are use it or lose it funds so this has been a problem. We have been using part of it for vision and dental plans that have little value for us.

With the mandate gone, affordable non-Obamacare compliant health insurance products should become available again and we should be able to use the funds that we have available efficiently again. So for us, Trump is right, Obamacare may still be around for those who want it, but we will soon be able to purchase common sense, affordable actual health insurance that doesn't pay for drug abuse treatment programs, sex change operations, and abortions. And we will once again be able to use our retirement earmarked for health insurance efficiently once again. So for us Obamacare’s negative consequences will be gone and President Trump is essentially correct.

68 posted on 12/20/2017 12:12:44 PM PST by fireman15
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