Posted on 01/17/2018 11:51:53 AM PST by jazusamo
Agreement is test for national detainer authority.
More than a dozen Florida sheriffs announced a deal Wednesday that will allow them to hold illegal immigrants wanted by the federal government for deportation, in what’s likely to be a key test case for cities and countries eager to cooperate but worried about legal problems associated with helping the Trump administration.
Known as the Basic Ordering Agreement, the deal struck between 17 Florida sheriffs and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement would allow local authorities to hold illegal immigrants even beyond the time they normally would have to be released based on state or local cases.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Article only mentions the Sheriff for Pinellas County. Which are the other 16 counties whose sheriffs struck this “deal” with ICE? Why is their identity not disclosed in this article? Dollars to donuts Hillsborough County isn’t on the list with Tampa being a sanctuary city. The newly appointed Sheriff Chad Chronister (who, despite his waspy name, looks just like a poster boy for LaRaza) had already had his office say to the media months ago that it wasn’t looking into any deals with ICE.
Here dumb ass:
These are the rates at which the rulings of our circuit courts of appeal are overturned.
6th Circuit - 87 percent;
11th Circuit - 85 percent;
9th Circuit - 79 percent;
3rd Circuit - 78 percent;
2nd Circuit and Federal Circuit - 68 percent;
8th Circuit - 67 percent;
5th Circuit - 66 percent;
7th Circuit - 48 percent;
DC Circuit - 45 percent;
1st Circuit and 4th Circuit - 43 percent;
10th Circuit - 42 percent.
Further, I don’t give a rats ass what the SCOTUS says on matters that defy logic. Remember, Chief justice Roberts classified the Obama fine a tax, when even its Leftist proponents denied it was.
If you need any more help coming down on the right side of immigration issues, I’ll be here to help.
That’s okay. These people are still in the nation illegally, and need to be deported.
Which holding cell they remain in until deported shouldn’t matter.
Would doubt there will continue to be others who it will take being prosecuted to enforce the laws of our nation.
So the Fourth Amendment, just like the Fourteenth, has been unconstitutionally “altered” so that it applies to anyone lucky enough to gain entry to our country!
Short answer - apples & oranges.
Longer answer - The government's statutory power is greatest when enforcing the borders. We task ICE with doing that. Sometimes they make mistakes. Sometimes they are overzealous. In many (but not all) cases when a citizen is temporarily detained by ICE, it is seen as the cost of doing business.
That is different than when someone is already detained for non-immigration reasons in a jail & that matter is temporarily or permanently resolved - keeping in mind the local sheriff, jail, etc has zero authority to enforce federal immigration law unless they are part of the federal 287(g) program (although all jails send lists of their new detainees to the feds - not just ICE - all the time).
“that will allow them to hold illegal immigrants wanted by the federal government for deportation”
It seems that the above reads the Federal government has already issued a warrant if the want them held for deportation!
If warrant is in effect, Adios Wetback, back to your S-hole!
Get out of my wallet and country.
I'm going to type slowly so even you (maybe) understand.
The poster I was originally responding to - prior to you trolling yourself into the conversation - asked what the legal issues are. I responded. I don't agree. But I was responding with facts, not what you, or I, or anyone else wishes was the facts.
Good deal by the Florida sheriffs! Instead of DACA, I propose the “Curtailment Action for Childhood Arrivals” or CACA. In any case, mathematically, DACA = CACA. LOL!
Nope. That's exactly what has been revealed in the court cases. When ICE asks a jail to hold an illegal immigrant after their underlying issue(s) that landed them in jail is resolved, it is merely a request with zero legal authority. Even ICE admits this.
ICE could go get a warrant to hold the person in jail longer. Sometimes they do exactly that. Most of the time they do not. Then the jail gets sued (at least sometimes).
The article posted does not explain if this new agreement involves a warrant. If it does not, I wonder if federal courts will continue to crap on the current process.
How do you account for our law enforcement agencies holding these illegal aliens for decades up until now? Most agencies still do it today. It’s only the sanctuary areas, or other areas with Leftist sheriffs who don’t.
You see, your facts are bupkis.
La Raza always comes up with sound reasons to believe our repatriation measures are wicked. They make all sorts of claims that these deportations are violations of the law, just like your claims here regarding holding these people for ICE.
Sorry, I’m not buying into that line or reasoning if they loft it, or if you loft it.
Bingo. Although there is a long, long history of applying the Bill or Rights to not just citizens but anyone under US control or jurisdiction.
People just started suing over it these past few years. As I said (and you refuse to believe because apparently your computer cannot access Google), every single federal court to consider the issue has ruled in favor of illegal immigrants.
Most agencies still do it today.
Indeed.
Indeed!
Thanks for the confirmation of what you knew to be true from the first post.
Law enforcement agencies can hold a “citizen” for up to a certain period of time without charging them. I don’t know the limit 24-48 hours, but I believe it to be 48 hours.
These illegal immigrants can be held legally for up to that time limit, and still be considered to have given these people due process.
They are here in violation of our laws. PERIOD!
You’ll never find me here blowing smoke for the illegal aliens. You seem to think it’s your duty.
More than a dozen Florida sheriffs announced a deal Wednesday that will allow them to hold illegal immigrants wanted by the federal government for deportation, in what’s likely to be a key test case for cities and countries eager to cooperate but worried about legal problems associated with helping the Trump administration.
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I know that English is hard for some people but please read and comprehend the first sentence. Key words are “announced a deal”.
“Bingo. Although there is a long, long history of applying the Bill or Rights to not just citizens but anyone under US control or jurisdiction.”
That’s why we should not allow the RATs to close Gitmo. There are no “rights” in Gitmo, except what the Military allows.
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