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Alleged Florida school shooter Nikolas Cruz was reported to FBI, cops, school [last month!]
FOX News.com ^ | February 16, 2018 | Lucia I. Suarez Sang

Posted on 02/16/2018 11:21:27 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The FBI revealed Friday it got a tip last month that Nikolas Cruz, the 19-year-old accused of killing 17 people on Valentine's Day, had a gun, wanted to “kill people” and there was the “potential of him conducting a school shooting.”

The agency in a statement admitted receiving a call on Jan. 5, 2018 from a person close to Cruz who contacted the FBI through its Public Access Line tipline to express concerns about Cruz's erratic behavior and disturbing social media posts

"Under established protocols, the information provided by the caller should have been assessed as a potential threat to life," the statement said. "We have determined that these protocols were not followed for the information received by the PAL on January 5."

In concluded that the caller's information was not forwarded to the Miami FBI field office and "no further investigation was conducted at the time." FBI Director Christopher Wray said the Bureau would review what had happened.

“We are still investigating the facts. I am committed to getting to the bottom of what happened in this particular matter, as well as reviewing our processes for responding to information that we receive from the public," Wray said in the statement. "It’s up to all Americans to be vigilant, and when members of the public contact us with concerns, we must act properly and quickly."

He continued: "We have spoken with victims and families, and deeply regret the additional pain this causes all those affected by this horrific tragedy. All of the men and women of the FBI are dedicated to keeping the American people safe, and are relentlessly committed to improving all that we do and how we do it.”.......

In their report, deputies detailed how the teen had been harming himself and had talked about buying a gun.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Hmmmmm - a few days ago they were claiming they didn’t have enough info - now that it made them look really stupid and inept, they fess up that they have lazy folks (who probably joke about not investigating the “next mass shooter” while having cocktails for lunch) who are not interested in doing their jobs...


61 posted on 02/17/2018 3:24:25 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
This is so disturbing at so many levels.

Will worthless Congress or the sleeping AG do anything as a "check" to this agency that has lost its way as a legitimate Federal Law Enforcement Agency? I am confounded at the way our President has handled the FBI overall. A great portion of the very top need to resign or be fired. I think it needs to be dismantled completely.

62 posted on 02/17/2018 4:00:14 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

If Obama hadn’t corrupted the FBI and if the FBI wasn’t involved in a coup against the President, maybe they would have followed their protocols and saved these lives.


63 posted on 02/17/2018 4:03:33 AM PST by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Because they’re so far UP Trump’s ass with these fake investigations, there are no real cops and special agents out there anymore...


64 posted on 02/17/2018 4:07:46 AM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

My neighbor, head of the homeowner’s association had intiated and lost two lawsuits against me. It bankrupted the HOA. He was crazy, and even the deputies described him as such. I told a deputy that the neighbor had purchased a gun and was telling people he felt threatened by me and implying he would shoot first. The deputy said he was aware and had been told similar by my neighbor. I suggested he arrest the man. The deputy’s response was, “We will, once he’s killed you. We don’t take action before the fact.” Another deputy told me, “Your realize your neighbor is crazy don’t you? You have to move or he’ll kill you.”

I think this event encapsulates law enforcement philosophy at all levels. It reacts. It is not proactive. And, if it were proactive, how would it get convictions for crimes that had been threatened but not committed?

The answer is to eliminate gun free zones and arm teachers.


65 posted on 02/17/2018 4:21:20 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Scooter100

Hearing voices can be a good thing if they are instructing you to ‘finish your homework,’ ‘help mom carry the groceries,’ or ‘help find the neighbor’s cat.’

It’s hard to believe he was hearing voices with all the elaborate pre-meditation and his clever escape for the first hour after the rampage.

Do all psychopaths hear voices?


66 posted on 02/17/2018 5:03:06 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Does the CIA/FBI "send voices"?

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4877027

THAT would be psychopathic.

67 posted on 02/17/2018 7:58:11 AM PST by Scooter100
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Alleged shooter? But damn, they already convicted the “AR15”....

Funny how the word “alleged” and “supposed” are very selectively used by media.


68 posted on 02/17/2018 8:47:16 AM PST by Professional
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Too bad the FBI under Comey was using massive resources to “get Trump”, instead of attending to their designated duties. Those seventeen innocent lives are at Comey’s feet. I don’t know how that man can live with himself!


69 posted on 02/17/2018 11:36:49 AM PST by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: Kalamata

So true and so sad!


70 posted on 02/17/2018 11:45:01 AM PST by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

“Excitable Boy they all said.....”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4-pexSVWzM


71 posted on 02/17/2018 11:48:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dragnet2

72 posted on 02/17/2018 2:56:32 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

Garrison sums it up quite well with that image.


73 posted on 02/17/2018 2:59:57 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Diogenesis
https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/shooting_cartoon_ben_garrison-1024x739.jpg

Btw, this one has no black borders...

74 posted on 02/17/2018 3:02:04 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
A 2nd tip!! My goodness. What have they done? He slipped A thru every crack in place. His psychiatrist/counselor. The many calls to his home. The FBI.

The only 2 that took action were the first family who said he could not stay with his fire- arm. (But, he left and found another home). But, she noticed an issue and took personal action. Also, the school who expelled him.

75 posted on 02/17/2018 4:32:31 PM PST by HollyB (Whn)
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To: RitaOK
It is very depressing. But, they do not need to go into a police state, they just need to fully and properly follow up on tips. We've heard many times in the past that complaints were filed on who later became an offender, but were cleared. Perhaps the FBI is becoming complacent. It's hard to say, but
that is where the attention needs to be. And yes, like you said - that resource can be abused where innocent people are being detained like it's a gestapo. At the minimum there should be follow up on a tip. We removed ‘the wall’, so the FBI can check with local law enforcement for any issues to see if there is any merit to the complaint. Maybe it's time consuming, but that's there job.
76 posted on 02/17/2018 4:56:07 PM PST by HollyB
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Not sure about that. I called once in my life and a local field office agent called me back. He was more interested in talking about my driver’s license photo and where I lived. Freaked me out. I’ll never call that agency again.


77 posted on 02/17/2018 5:41:02 PM PST by HollyB
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To: HollyB

Reports say it was the Louisiana office who never turned the last, or one of the last call warnings in.


78 posted on 02/17/2018 7:57:18 PM PST by RitaOK
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To: RitaOK

Yes, but this article states that on Jan 5th a report was made by someone he knew. That wasn’t the Louisiana Office (which is where the bondman had contact with). So it appears there were 2 reports.


79 posted on 02/17/2018 10:10:44 PM PST by HollyB
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To: RitaOK

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article200598934.html


80 posted on 02/17/2018 10:14:20 PM PST by HollyB
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