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Notes on the indictment
Powerline ^ | Feburary 17,2018 | Scott Johnson

Posted on 02/17/2018 9:05:27 AM PST by Hojczyk

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To: Hojczyk
Everyone does it..

You are foolish to think that.

Not everyone does that. I worked in intelligence for 30 years and I can say countries do not do this unless they mean harm to an enemy; a real enemy. We are no longer an enemy of Russia.

(Fool Obama is the only one I know of who did such a thing and Israel almost broke relations with America over it.)

It is an undermining act of war when done between nations.

21 posted on 02/17/2018 9:55:46 AM PST by Rapscallion (The tragedy of politics is that it can make good people hate each other.)
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To: Rapscallion
This was a Putin act. It had a giant Russian corporation behind it.

It took a giant Russian corporation to open 13 Facebook and Twitter accounts using fake names?

LMAO.

You may not have noticed it, but that kind of sh!t happens with boring regularity right here on this website EVERY DAY.

22 posted on 02/17/2018 10:08:21 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Rapscallion
Did the U.S. launch a military campaign against Israel when the Jonathan Pollard espionage story broke?

Why not?

23 posted on 02/17/2018 10:10:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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Did the U.S. launch a military campaign against Israel when the Jonathan Pollard espionage story broke?

I was there. It nearly caused a diplomatic break in relations. The friendship between America and Israel was chilled for years. Despite Israel's pleading, we kept Pollard and his wife in jail....him for many years.

24 posted on 02/17/2018 10:15:40 AM PST by Rapscallion (The tragedy of politics is that it can make good people hate each other.)
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To: Rapscallion

Stop the drama. It didn’t change a damn thing in U.S. relations with Israel. They remained one of the largest recipients (if not THE largest) of U.S. foreign aid throughout the entire time the case was being prosecuted and the entire time Pollard was in prison.


25 posted on 02/17/2018 10:17:28 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Hojczyk

Hilarious.

Thirteen Russian itinerants overthrow the Federal election of the United States?

Whatta laff. If anyone noticed, it was an accident.


26 posted on 02/17/2018 10:18:04 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Hojczyk

Has anyone noticed that the word “hacking” does not appear anywhere in the indictment?


27 posted on 02/17/2018 10:22:32 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: Rapscallion

“It is an undermining act of war when done between nations”

Gee, really?

The nation of Mexico intentionally pushes millions of its people into our country, routinely interferes in elections all across the Southwest, foments violent mass action in our cities (recall the attacks on candidate Trump in California and his supporters), sends its “diplomats” into our state and municipal governments to agitate and threaten our elected representatives, pours money (usually gotten from the US) into every kind of influence peddling in our federal, state and local governments, and being tied into the Mexican mafias that smuggle people and drugs into the US, they wage a terrorist war against the Americans of the Southwest.

Funny but I don’t hear you pointing that out. I guess if you live in leafy Maryland suburbs that’s a reality a million miles away.

But it is terrifyingly real for us in the West. Yet the fixation on Eastern Europe and its chronic inter-ethnic problems is all that seems to animate Eastern Seaboard people, who unfortunately end up focusing the lion’s share of an entire country’s resources on them.

Why is that? Thirteen inconsequential people doing political dirty tricks that are dwarfed by the vicious crimes of the entire nation that adjoins the US, and...that’s who Washington focuses on?

If it’s “an undermining act of war” then when do we declare war on the sleazy scum to the South of us? They do it by the millions, not in the tens of people.

Mr. Trump has all the right enemies, and is focused on the REAL threats to the existence of America.


28 posted on 02/17/2018 10:31:16 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Rapscallion
Voice of America ... same sort of action. Hit the opponent's populace with messages.

Now, assuming you are telling the truth that you were in US intelligence for 30 years, I don't trust you. US intelligence is a powerful force, at this point highly politicized. You might be trustworthy, but it's reasonable to presume you are not.

29 posted on 02/17/2018 10:37:30 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Hojczyk

I wonder if the Russians helped Obama in 2008 and 2012. Because Obama promised Putin he would have more flexibility after an election that hadn’t happened yet.


30 posted on 02/17/2018 10:38:01 AM PST by Garvin (Always remember folks, kill a commie for mommy ~ Semper Fi, Mac!)
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To: Rapscallion

Laughable as wars go.


31 posted on 02/17/2018 10:42:27 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Hojczyk
You might be trustworthy, but it's reasonable to presume you are not.

You might be trustworthy but I note you were suspended from PHOTOBUCKET. What you did was unethical. Tell all of us what you did, please.

32 posted on 02/17/2018 10:52:17 AM PST by Rapscallion (The tragedy of politics is that it can make good people hate each other.)
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I was there. It nearly caused a diplomatic break in relations. The friendship between America and Israel was chilled for years

Interesting. The antisemitism runs deeper than i thought.

33 posted on 02/17/2018 10:54:36 AM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: JonPreston

Radio Free Europe, etc, etc, etc.


34 posted on 02/17/2018 11:11:54 AM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: Rapscallion

LOL — Educate yourself. Any Americans involved (I.e. meddling) in Ukraine’s recent elections? Any Clinton involved Americans involved? We live in such a glass house.


35 posted on 02/17/2018 11:14:44 AM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: Rapscallion

The Russians have been engaged in disinformation campaigns and disruption since 1917! If they had “hacked” the election by changing vote totals, then that is one thing. But do you really think their disinformation was any more impactful than the stream of editorializing we got from the left-wing European press throughout the campaign which hailed HRC and demonized Trump?

And do you really think the Chinese, North Koreans, and others aren’t doing this as well? Why are our overlords not talking about them?

Sorry to say, but the only way you’re going to eliminate this kind of foreign meddling is to block U.S. citizens’ access to foreign information sources. Good luck trying to block internet access. And radio? Impossible.

For me, the most shocking element of all this is the assumption that the American people need “protection” because they are too moronic to inform themselves appropriately, sift through the dross, and make their own decisions. If that is truly the case, then none of this foreign meddling means anything, because we have sufficient fake-news propagandists to bring down the Republic right here at home.


36 posted on 02/17/2018 11:36:58 AM PST by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: Hojczyk

Looks to me like a psychological attack on the USA!


37 posted on 02/17/2018 1:01:27 PM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: House Atreides
Any Americans involved (I.e. meddling) in Ukraine’s recent elections

There is much evidence that the Russians were behind it all. They want to assimilate Ukraine.

38 posted on 02/18/2018 6:37:15 AM PST by Rapscallion (The tragedy of politics is that it can make good people hate each other.)
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