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Coming to terms with blood donations and men who sleep with men
Chicago Tribune ^ | July 12, 2016 | Kayla Simon

Posted on 02/19/2018 7:21:24 AM PST by fwdude

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To: MortMan

What does the O-neg have to do with it. More susceptible?


61 posted on 02/19/2018 12:14:08 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Universal donor. Anyone can take my blood.


62 posted on 02/19/2018 12:30:39 PM PST by MortMan (We are living in interesting times.)
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To: GailA

My brother can’t donate because he had meningitis and encephalitis. His daughter can’t because she had mononucleosis which caused hepatitis. My father couldn’t because contracted malaria during WWII and also had a bleeding disorder, not Hemophilia. My nephew’s wife can’t donate because she lived in Europe for more than 5 years (in Germany and the UK – military bases) prior to 1997.

I donate blood regularly and have donated platelets because my blood tests negative for CMV negative – cytomegaloviruses (which in the herpes family and includes chickenpox, cold sores, and infectious mononucleosis) which makes my blood and platelets very desirable for infants, but have been deferred twice because my BP was too high.

The thing is that yes, the blood is tested for certain diseases like HIV/AIDS, Hepatitis, Syphilis, Chagas, Zika and West Nile. But the questionnaire you have to answer is pretty much on the honor system. As a woman I’m asked questions like have I ever had sex with a man who has had sex with another man, or with someone who has HIV/AIDS or anyone who has been and IV drug abuser or has hepatitis, have I ever had sex with someone for money or had sex with someone who had sex with someone for money. Also if I’ve gotten a tattoo or any type of piercing in the last 6 months, or am I pregnant. And then there are the travel questions.

I certainly hope that anyone who wants to donate blood, does it for the right reason and is honest on answering the questions. But aside from testing for the things they test for, they are depending on you to be honest.

IMO if a homosexual man has been 100% celibate for more than a year and can answer all the other questions honestly, I don’t see a problem with it. But honesty is the key but that applies to everyone who donates.


63 posted on 02/19/2018 1:08:47 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: cartan

For some, however, the hourslong wait ended in disappointment.
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This is fake news. This policy has been in existence for many years. Most sodomites as well as their liberal sycophants are already aware of the policy. This is just a case of never let a good crisis go to waste.


64 posted on 02/19/2018 1:46:31 PM PST by photodawg
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

The official - and less politically-correct - term is “Men who have sex with men” - but I guess that is a little too graphic for the Trib.
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Actually, men can’t have sex with men. They can only have foreplay. They are actually asexual beings. They just call it sex because they want it to be considered normal behavior


65 posted on 02/19/2018 1:52:11 PM PST by photodawg
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To: fwdude

Since they’ve got those drugs that prevent AIDS, they think no one should care, but I’ve read people with HIV die 14 years early, plus it often leads to dementia. I can’t find the article anymore about how HIV causes early death. I assume the gaystapo’s been busy deleting the truth.


66 posted on 02/19/2018 2:06:37 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just look)
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To: MD Expat in PA
IMO if a homosexual man has been 100% celibate for more than a year...

Understand that this group has been redefining reality for decades. For them "monogamy" means outside partners "with permission" or "inclusion." Don't bet against them redefining "celibacy" for themselves as meaning they didn't swallow.

67 posted on 02/19/2018 2:09:38 PM PST by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: NetAddicted

The drugs used to combat HIV infection are not mild in the least. Look up some of the risks and side effects. Damage to many organs is the short term effect, with long-term effects still being unknown. But most don’t stay on the same regimen forever, having to switch drug combos when the HIV strain mutates and becomes drug resistant, so a whole new slew of body-stressing drugs have to be thrown at it at regular intervals, bringing with them their own hazards.


68 posted on 02/19/2018 2:12:58 PM PST by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: originalbuckeye
It was a Kaiser instution and they said no. This was a decade ago, so maybe that rule no longer holds true.

I'd be willing to bet it is still the case. The whole blood bank thing is a huge racket from what I've seen. Your only 2 options in the Dallas Ft. Worth area are the Red Cross and Carter Bloodcare. Carter has pretty much taken over everything. Since I pretty much wouldn't spit on the Red Cross if they were on fire, that pretty much leaves Carter, which has gotten ever more intrusive with their policies over the years. i.e., one thing that they started doing a few years ago is forcing you to sign away rights to anything they might do with your blood. That is, they demand permission to use your blood in research and you have to sign a waiver that allows them to use it for that, and you have no rights regarding anything they might develop with said research. If you won't sign the waiver, you can't donate blood at all with them. All you get from donating are "points" for a lousy t-shirt, that you don't even get at the time. You have to go through their website to 'order' it.

The research thing ticked me off quite a bit, and their attitude, which is essentially that they are doing you a favor by allowing you to donate blood for which they can charge hundreds of dollars to the medical industry. Kinda turned me off. I had given 5 gallons, but don't even bother any more.

69 posted on 02/19/2018 7:46:41 PM PST by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: fwdude
Understand that this group has been redefining reality for decades. For them "monogamy" means outside partners "with permission" or "inclusion." Don't bet against them redefining "celibacy" for themselves as meaning they didn't swallow.

That’s why I said “But honesty is the key but that applies to everyone who donates.”

When I donate blood, how do they know I’m being honest with my answers? I could be lying about never having traded money for sex, being an or having had sex with an IV drug abuser, having lived in the UK for more than 5 years prior to 1997. I have never gotten any tattoos or piercings aside from my earlobes when I was 18, but the Red Cross doesn’t do a full body exam. And what’s to stop a homosexual man from lying about even being a homosexual? I guess that’s why they test for HIV and hepatitis and other blood borne diseases for all donors.

70 posted on 02/20/2018 4:24:39 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA
That’s why I said “But honesty is the key but that applies to everyone who donates.”

And I'm telling you that they ARE being "honest" according to the understanding they have based on their own definitions. They DO believe that they are being "monogamous" even though there are other sexual partners involved. It's a reality redefining game.

71 posted on 02/20/2018 6:26:40 AM PST by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: zeugma; originalbuckeye

I’ve stopped donating completely since the blood organizations have become completely politicized by the left. I know it may result in shortages which may cause deaths, but let the fags make up the difference. I will donate autologously and for loved ones if I can.


72 posted on 02/20/2018 6:33:45 AM PST by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Also depends on how good the test screen as the HIV drugs surpress it so well now it doesn’t always show up. There are a host of illnesses that prevent donations of more than just blood.

Neither could my dad from WW2 Malaria he fought under MacArthur.

I can’t donate either I’m Hypothyroid.

Strange you added CMV I lost a child to that, his dad brought the virus back from Nam in my third trimester and of course I caught it, I don’t test positive for it though, Bryan lived only 33 days.


73 posted on 02/20/2018 6:36:36 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: a fool in paradise

But they would never accept a quarantine of any kind.


74 posted on 02/20/2018 6:45:21 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: fwdude

I had Type A Hepatitis when I was a child in the late 1950s, I have been unable to give blood because of “a too great of a risk of the recipient getting hepatitis from my blood.”

My oldest daughter was born in Germany in 1984 when I was assigned there by the US Army. Because there was both the Chernobyl nuclear accident and the occurrence of mad cow disease in England and on the continent, she cannot give blood, because of “a too great of a risk to the recipient.” Also, before a surgery, I was told that I could not even donate my own blood for use in case it was needed because of the existing health regulations forbidding those who have had hepatitis from donating blood.

Thus I take the position, that those who have had HIV/Aids, should likewise continue to be forbidden to give blood, because of “a too great of a risk to the recipient.”


75 posted on 02/20/2018 8:53:03 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: fwdude

Enough with the ‘sleeping’ euphemism. There’s very little ‘sleeping’ going on- it’s the sex that’s the problem. Diseases don’t come from ‘sleeping’!


76 posted on 02/20/2018 8:56:17 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: Morpheus2009

Ebola people didn’t like quarantine either.


77 posted on 02/20/2018 4:24:05 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
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To: fwdude

being homosexual may not be a choice, but the anal sex is, and that is where their place in society must be limited in some ways......they are prone to massive and devastating diseases and they must not pass that on to an innocent populace..


78 posted on 02/20/2018 4:28:07 PM PST by cherry
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To: fwdude
man-woman sex is the biological norm....in the past, breeding was accepted as the ONLY reason for sex per the former Catholic Church..

I don't know about all the variations but shallow,godless,self indulgent humans seem to find ways to corrupt every single biological "need"..

we eat too much, drink too much, smoke too much, and apparently aren't satisfied with normal sex.

79 posted on 02/20/2018 4:35:51 PM PST by cherry
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To: fwdude

“Monogamous homosexual men” virtually don’t exist. Study after study has shown that homosexual men are promiscuous, often to a shocking extreme. They routinely engage in high risk sexual behavior with many partners.

I read about a recent study which dealt with the question: do gay married men view faithfulness in the same way that most heterosexual married couples do? The answer was a resounding no. Married gay men routinely go outside the marriage for sex, and this kind of behavior is acceptable in their world. Monogamy for them just means they might have fewer sex partners than they had before they were married. There is no big taboo re: a gay married man having other sex partners besides his “spouse.”

We absolutely need to protect the blood banks from donations from gay men.


80 posted on 02/20/2018 4:45:40 PM PST by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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