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I’m getting real tired of this “rope-a-dope” and “4D chess” bullshit explanation/defense for everything Trump’s doing. It’s pretty clear that he’s leaning toward “universal” background checks, which means that, in order to sell or give a gun - any gun - to my kids, I have to run them through a background check and get the government’s permission. Didn’t Cruz got permission from the government to guy a gun? Once again, we’re being presented with a “solution” that will affect ONLY law-abiding citizens and NOT criminals.

The NRA and the vast majority of its members, myself included, supported and helped initiate the NICS, which is only as good as the information fed into it by the states, which is NOT comprehensive. There are a number of states that fail to report disqualifying information to the FBI, which administers the NICS system. In Cruz’s case, the school, county, and local police should have charged him with various crimes and he should have been reported for mental health issues, which would have resulted in his disqualification to purchase a firearm. They did not - and primarily due to a federal program that tied funding to a decrease in crime. In the case of Broward County and Parkland, crime didn’t decrease, they just stopped arresting and reporting people like Cruz so it looked like crime was going down. Again, in Cruz’s case, local citizens reported his behavior in accordance with what they were asked to do; when they “saw something”, they said something, but the FBI was too busy to do anything about it.

The bottom line is that the Parkland shooting was not only allowed, but facilitated by bad policy and utter incompetence and ineptitude at every level of government.
The government’s answer - as it always is, restrict the freedom of law-abiding citizens so everyone feels good, but only for a while, until those policies and laws, like the ones that preceded them, also fail. There are over 20,000 “common sense” gun laws on the books in the United States, but we haven’t gotten to common sense yet. Legislate, rinse, repeat. The one thing government is really good at? Making criminals out of law-abiding citizens and, increasingly in our case, not citizens, but subjects.


8 posted on 03/01/2018 8:08:59 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: ManHunter
The bottom line is that the Parkland shooting was not only allowed, but facilitated by bad policy and utter incompetence and ineptitude at every level of government.

Reagan:

"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."

January 20, 1981: From Reagan's Inaugural Address.

38 posted on 03/01/2018 8:51:10 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: ManHunter

“I’m getting real tired of this “rope-a-dope” and “4D chess” bullshit explanation/defense for everything Trump’s doing.“

I think I am, too. I’ve really been trying to be patient and understanding, but his words about guns is pushing me off his plantation. If our politics has to be this much sleight of hand, it is not good and it is not ours.

Time for US to once again control our government. Whatever that takes. Now.


46 posted on 03/01/2018 9:08:55 AM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesteron)
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To: ManHunter

I’ve already given my guns to my children. Right now they’re storing them at my house.


56 posted on 03/01/2018 9:53:32 AM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: ManHunter
I’m getting real tired of this “rope-a-dope” and “4D chess” bullshit explanation/defense for everything Trump’s doing. It’s pretty clear that he’s leaning toward “universal” background checks, which means that, in order to sell or give a gun - any gun - to my kids, I have to run them through a background check and get the government’s permission.

I laughed out out at that....

No way no how..is any "law" going to stop anyone..from selling a gun.,,to anyone else. PERIOD.

I own guns that were family guns...no permission, no nothing. I've bot gun's from private citizens...no permission..no NOTHING.

And I'm a law abiding, tax paying...( WAY MORE THAN I WANT TO...!!) citizen.

Does anyone here think....crooks, MS-13, Gangs, trash...gonna get background checks!?!?!? LOL!!!

79 posted on 03/01/2018 2:23:55 PM PST by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: ManHunter
I’m getting real tired of this “rope-a-dope” and “4D chess” bullshit explanation/defense for everything Trump’s doing.

Amen and AMEN.

82 posted on 03/01/2018 2:35:19 PM PST by Oatka
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