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California gears up for a battle over single-family zoning near transit
San Jose Mercury ^ | March 3, 2018 | Katy Murphy

Posted on 03/03/2018 4:14:37 PM PST by artichokegrower

Taking aim at climate change, highway gridlock and soaring housing costs, a California lawmaker has ignited a red-hot debate with a proposal that would force cities to allow more apartments and condominiums to be built a short walk from train stations and bus stops.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agenda21; california
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To: artichokegrower

You bet. They want everyone in civilian barracks...My term for condos and apartments, where they pigeonhole tens of millions already. Jammed in like sardines, one mans floor is another mans ceiling etc...


21 posted on 03/03/2018 4:51:12 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: sphinx

Look up Pruitt-Igoe for why this is a bad idea:

The Wendell O. Pruitt Homes and William Igoe Apartments, known together as Pruitt-Igoe, were joint urban housing projects first occupied in 1954 in the U.S. city of St. Louis, Missouri. Living conditions in Pruitt–Igoe began to decline soon after completion in 1956. By the late 1960s, the complex had become internationally infamous for its poverty, crime, and racial segregation. All 33 buildings were demolished with explosives in the mid-1970s, and the project has become an icon of failure of urban renewal and of public-policy planning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruitt%E2%80%93Igoe


22 posted on 03/03/2018 4:52:46 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: Architect of Avalon
There is a very dangerous movement across North America to replace family homes with small / cramped / Third-World-Style housing units......with no garages.
23 posted on 03/03/2018 4:56:10 PM PST by umgud
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To: artichokegrower

An article yesterday was about the State of California taking zoning laws for street vendors away from municipalities. That blends with this. Already they have begun work to centralize law creation in the hands of the Democrat party who has run California for seemingly ever, so why not zoning laws as well.

One might think them a little premature in the announcements of these ploys, but at this point in time they probably think any resistance is by the board.


24 posted on 03/03/2018 4:58:29 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Conservatives seek the truth. Democrats seek the power to dictate what truth is.)
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To: artichokegrower
Population density directly affects local revenue stream. The more people per acre the more city revenue per acre without more infrastructure per acre.
25 posted on 03/03/2018 5:04:32 PM PST by existtoexcel
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To: umgud

You won’t need a garage. Garages have evil polluting cars, gas cans and dirty tools and work benches. Liberals see that as old America...A waste of space that could be utilized as living space by hard working illegal aliens or maybe a Somali family.

Leftist will tell ya, you could put a 3 story apartment building in the footprint of a 2 car garage.


26 posted on 03/03/2018 5:04:36 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

“Zoning in general should be illegal.”

It seems to be that way in Houston! Weird place when it comes to zoning. Mansions in the middle of run down trailer parks. Strip clubs next to the church and the grade school.

And even little old Asians grandmothers drive pick up trucks.

Loved the people down there.


27 posted on 03/03/2018 5:04:36 PM PST by lizma2
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To: dragnet2

Sadly, you are right.


28 posted on 03/03/2018 5:05:32 PM PST by umgud
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Houston and London are the largest cities with no zoning.

(Though London has historic preservation restrictions)

Neither seems to have much problem with pig farms next to homes


29 posted on 03/03/2018 5:06:40 PM PST by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: artichokegrower

Agenda 21 raises its ugly, dark head.

So glad I don’t live in California. Feel sorry for those Conservatives and FReepers who do.


30 posted on 03/03/2018 5:08:01 PM PST by upchuck (Keep a sharp lookout. The best is yet to come.)
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To: artichokegrower

The real enemy is the existence of public mass transit. It always needs subsidies from the people smart enough to never use it.


31 posted on 03/03/2018 5:15:01 PM PST by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: Ambrosia

In Socialist Utopias you work the Schedule, not your schedule work for you.


32 posted on 03/03/2018 5:16:51 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

BUMP!!


33 posted on 03/03/2018 5:17:39 PM PST by upchuck (Keep a sharp lookout. The best is yet to come.)
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To: Ambrosia

That is how it works

They sit around and talk and act important

They have all the power as well

The land owner loses rights every day to these zoning boards and laws.

But we are always focused on the 2A but don’t realize that our own land/homes are being taken over by communist like boards. Everything has to be approved these days. They take homes that are on 1 acre lots and change the zoning to 5 acre, that means any improvement, like a tool shed, now required a zoning board application because you can’t place it anywhere on the lot because it does not meet setbacks. Yep, tell me again about property rights?

Don’t get me started on property taxes

Get rid of zoning boards and let Americans be free again. Not a single gun owner stopped any of this, just saying.


34 posted on 03/03/2018 6:14:27 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: artichokegrower

I live in SF for work. The bay area is in a housing crisis because NIMBYs (many of them quite left here) block any attempt to build higher than 2 or 3 stories because it will ruin the “feel” of their neighborhood. meanwhile, single-family homes here or in the valley go for north of $1 million because demand outstrips supply.

Hubs of economic activity like NYC, Chicago, London all require density to function. SF’s lack of density doesn’t result in everyone having single family homes, it results in middle class people being priced out of the housing market and people being forced into exurbs and two-hour commutes.

It may not be the lifestyle you want, but tens of thousands of families successfully raise kids in dense urban areas. The trick is living close to parks and in a decent part of town.


35 posted on 03/03/2018 6:33:46 PM PST by socalgop
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Zoning civil engineers are collectivists. They push 64 square foot cages until people exodus out of the city.

Then after, they propose 16 foot cages.

Chhose your home wisely.


36 posted on 03/03/2018 6:51:36 PM PST by TheNext
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To: artichokegrower

This law would essentially repeal thousands of local laws and expand property rights. I would probably still oppose it because I’m a California homeowner already and thus would derive no benefit, but be clear this law expands property rights.


37 posted on 03/03/2018 7:30:22 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

But let’s be clear, this law extends Agenca 21.


38 posted on 03/03/2018 7:41:52 PM PST by Daffy
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To: artichokegrower; Trump.Deplorable

Or the pot store; or the liquor store; or the migrant worker center; or the strip club; or the methadone clinic; or, or, or.

Thank God for zoning laws.


39 posted on 03/03/2018 7:51:13 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Seems to me that is how they make money, there is a permit, inspection, and charge for everything. Your view is right. My property was not zoned, however, now it is. The costs of permits are expensive.


40 posted on 03/03/2018 8:35:39 PM PST by Ambrosia
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