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To: mdittmar

Be careful before jumping on the death penalty for drug dealing because you never know if jr. Is selling pot or a little bit of Coke or ecstasy at college.

Drug dealers come in all shapes and sizes. Be ready to accept your sons or daughters death for selling in college or bars before you run with this.

Got a niece who is doing great in her job. Climbing the ladder. Graduated college 2 years ago. 4 years ago got caught selling pot, got probation, a year later it was removed from her file.

She made maybe two hundred bucks a week. And if she had gotten jail time I would have been terribly upset but I would not have protested. The death penalty might have bothered me.


3 posted on 03/10/2018 6:26:40 PM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know saying Syrian rebels in anost back in Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: dp0622

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4 posted on 03/10/2018 6:30:17 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: dp0622

I would disagree.

If we were more like Singapore, serious crime would be rare in our country.

People who poison others in the name of profit deserve to forfeit their lives.

We should have zero tolerance for drug smuggling and drug abuse.


6 posted on 03/10/2018 6:33:09 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever) I)
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To: dp0622

Dude I would keep the daughter was a drug dealer story to yourself


9 posted on 03/10/2018 6:35:47 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: dp0622

I hear you about the niece.

It is dangerous to have big penalties that can be misused; just as it is dangerous to have big penalties that are never used. An example: There’s major penalties for aiding and abetting illegal aliens, including heavy prison time, but they haven’t been mentioned for the Mayor of Oakland.

In the pot arena, Jeff Magoo has come on strong, but even he has recognized that the ultimate penalty should rarely be pursued. He said that the Feds wouldn’t pursue minor pot penalties that are in line with current state laws.

The key issue here is prosecutorial discretion. If Justice isn’t self-serving, it works. If it is self-serving you get severity (and even entrapment) where it isn’t warranted, and leniency where severity is called for. Cases in point: Your niece, Ruby Ridge, Hillary, Mayor Schaaf.


17 posted on 03/10/2018 6:48:35 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: dp0622
The death penalty might have bothered me.

But you leave the door open for maybe being okay with it. ;)
18 posted on 03/10/2018 6:50:25 PM PST by Rastus
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To: dp0622
Got a niece who is doing great in her job. Climbing the ladder. Graduated college 2 years ago. 4 years ago got caught selling pot, got probation, a year later it was removed from her file.

Glad to hear your niece is doing so well. I wonder how well her former customers are doing.

20 posted on 03/10/2018 6:51:18 PM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: dp0622

There are countless parents, some of whom are celebrities or are very wealthy, who are a micron away from blowing away drug dealers who have taken their sons and daughters to the grave or to incapacitation.

Drug dealers are scum, devilish scum. Society won’t miss them.


29 posted on 03/10/2018 7:13:33 PM PST by Hostage (nga)
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To: dp0622

Be careful before jumping on the death penalty for drug dealing because you never know if jr. Is selling pot or a little bit of Coke or ecstasy at college.


Even Singapore doesn’t impose the death penalty for a little bit of pot. It’s 18 oz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_Drugs_Act_(Singapore)#Thresholds
To get more than seven years in NY, you need to be caught with more than 10 lbs.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/new-york-law/new-york-marijuana-laws.html

I expect if the death penalty were imposed, we’re looking at 10x Singapore’s limits.


35 posted on 03/10/2018 7:22:09 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: dp0622

Yea, but it’s the bigger fish that drew her in. Those are the ones you want to make examples of. Kinda makes the idea of be a little fish all the more unappealing.


36 posted on 03/10/2018 7:25:38 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: dp0622

I really don’t think she’s the one Trump was referring to.


38 posted on 03/10/2018 7:34:33 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: dp0622

I love TRUMP. It’s a great night hearing him speak. Loved going to his Hershey rally...


39 posted on 03/10/2018 7:36:56 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: dp0622

There are posters easily seen everywhere in Singapore proclaiming death penalty to drug dealers. Guess what? Ther is no drug problem in Singapore and every 6th citizen is a millionaire, which is the highest concentration of rich people in the world. Yes, even better than Switzerland.

I will bet dollar to a donut, if such law existed in US, your niece would not be dealing any contraband. But such law will never pass here. Under the umbrella of “freedom” we allow many things which harm many “free” citizens.


41 posted on 03/10/2018 7:52:34 PM PST by entropy12 (30 Million low wealth, low skill LEGAL chain migrants in 25 years is 60 times worse than DACA)
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To: dp0622

I don’t think drugs like marijuana would be on the death penalty list. I couldn’t support that. It’s the meth and heroin dealers that gotta go. Those drugs are destroying communities. Slaps on the wrist aren’t cutting it.

It’s tough to make the case to kill first time street level thugs dealing those drugs, but execute a few of the mid-level traffickers while mixing in some low level repeat offenders and you might start to get somewhere.

These dealers have no fear anymore ... None. I often hear that legalization would solve the problem, but I think, in the case of heroin and meth, that’d generate even more demand, more addicts, and a black market for dirt cheap, potent drugs since the legal ones would be more expensive.

The sources of this garbage need some fear. Until that happens, nothing is going to change.


43 posted on 03/10/2018 8:07:25 PM PST by edh
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To: dp0622
Trump doesn't even drink, and has the sort of bias associated with being totally drug free.

Whether or not he admits recreational use of drugs is an open question. But there is no doubt he is opposed to the organized government/pharma/criminal enterprise that has been operation for 100+ years. Heroin and opiates are government-controlled business, shared with bad guys around the world.

45 posted on 03/10/2018 8:16:44 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: dp0622

If the penalty was death, I would hope your niece would never have even considered it in the first place.


47 posted on 03/10/2018 8:23:32 PM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: dp0622

I don’t think he meant the death penalty for small dealers of pot, but the big dealers of heroin, meth, and coke, that lead results in deaths.


50 posted on 03/10/2018 8:36:04 PM PST by euram
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To: dp0622

That is not exactly the kind of drug dealing being discussed. Drug dealing, yes. Your daughter was doing that. But it was pot and it was very minor.

Question: If someone other than your daughter is caught dealing in large quantities of meth or cocaine or heroin how do you feel about the death penalty for dealing drugs?


55 posted on 03/10/2018 9:39:56 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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To: dp0622

Be careful before jumping on the death penalty for drug dealing because you never know if jr. Is selling pot or a little bit of Coke or ecstasy at college.
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NOBODY said it was retroactive.

If death penalty the law do you think she still would have done it. AND if she had she is taking the chance of getting caught.

LIBS are the ones that want to be able to ‘pick & choose’ which laws to obey or not.

Breaking the law is breaking the law, be it murder, illegal alien, drug dealer, spit on the sidewalk if the law there is a chance you will receive the maximum sentence. If a few pot sales is worth risking the chair for, shame on the stupid person that is dealing.

Sort of like pleading mercy for the Mendenez Bros because they were orphans.
BUT they were orphans because THEY killed their parents.


59 posted on 03/11/2018 12:11:11 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98)""Assume this is preceded by 'there is somebody somewhere who will say'")
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