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David Hogg: Gun Ownership Should be “Privilege, Not a Right”
FinkelBlog ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 03/12/2018 4:51:16 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Edited on 03/12/2018 6:01:19 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Just when you thought your TV might have become a Hogg-free zone . . .

Tuning in CNN this morning, there was David Hogg. Again. And the Parkland survivor-turned-gun-control-activist made one thing clear: he has no use for the Second Amendment. Hogg accused the NRA of liking to “hide behind the Second Amendment and say this is our constitutional right. We’re Americans.” Well, yeah: you nailed, it, David!

A bit later, David really gave away his game. Hogg praised countries like Sweden, where gun ownership is treated “as a privilege, rather than a right.”

At least for now, I’m able to “hide behind” the First Amendment in critiquing Hogg. Could treating free speech “as a privilege rather than a right” be next on the liberals’ list?

Note: give host Alisyn Camerota some credit. Although her voice was filled with skepticism about what “they,” the NRA, would say, she did raise the counter-argument to banning AR-15s — that it would put the “good guys” at a disadvantage in defending themselves.


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To: TallahasseeConservative

They have, it is, and we are. In big, big trouble. Trump only bought us time.


121 posted on 03/12/2018 8:09:16 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

People have a natural right to self-defense.


122 posted on 03/12/2018 8:09:19 AM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Mr. K
The government does not ‘give you’ the right to have a gun, the constitution says it cannot INFRINGE ON YOUR RIGHT (the right you already have)

It's a common and widespread misconception especially when people, including many on our side, say things like "my Constitutional rights" and "my 2nd Amendment right to bear arms." In many ways this is similar to the separation of church of state which people have heard all their lives from apparently authoritative people and not only assume is correct, but are adamant is part of the 1st Amendment even though they've never read it in their lives.

I've done this multiple times with the same result, always using the 1st Amendment and free speech, but in the aftermath of Parkland I used the 2nd Amendment to ask my favorite trap question on my FB page:

TRUE or FALSE: The 2nd Amendment grants us the right to bear arms.
Admittedly a small sample, but out of the 12 people who answered, 10, of which 3 are veterans, incorrectly answered TRUE. That's truly bad, but again, quite common. I'm doing my part in educating people by following up and pointing out why those 10 people are wrong, but obviously we need a larger education effort.

That effort begins with the recognition on our part that people simply do not know how any of this—rights, governments, the Declaration, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights—really works or is supposed to work, anyway. I have a friend who knew enough to counter me on rights when I tied them back to the Declaration by correctly stating that the Declaration has no binding on matters. What he could not counter was when I pointed out in response that the Declaration informs the Constitution which is why we go back to it. He said, "Hmm, okay, you got me. I didn't realize that."

We have a long way to go to turn this around so the time to start is now.

123 posted on 03/12/2018 8:16:05 AM PDT by Dahoser
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

David needs to take civics class one more time.


124 posted on 03/12/2018 8:23:11 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Vaquero
Seems to me he was set up to be the spokesperson BEFORE the so called shooting.

Naw, just a fellow traveler (raised by liberal parents) who was just able to jump in to the crisis dejour and help out.

125 posted on 03/12/2018 8:27:45 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (To close with and destroy....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Being able to run your stupid mouth without consequence should be a privilege and not a right, David.


126 posted on 03/12/2018 8:28:18 AM PDT by chris37 (Laws donÂ’t prevent criminals from committing crimes. Guns prevent criminals from committing crimes.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

He is such an ignorant Marxist b@stard who was brainwashed with weaponized Marxist curricula in our publik skools of mind control, those dehumanizing factories using peer-pressured psy-ops. His parents are useful idiots, obviously. Get your children OUT of the government programming hell-holes which force “group-(non)-think” and embed irrational emotions to irrational concepts and force such stupidity and ignorance with their twisted words and “language” (concepts), like ‘transgendered” and “homosexual marriage” and “gender” and “socialism”, diversity, tolerance, Darwinism (a religion), and multiculturalism which just embeds lies and hate for the “Other” (true diversity: male/female). Marxist curricula is embedding tribalism and hate in children —just like the irrational, artificial, emotions of boy harems do in Afghanistan to the little children that grow up in such an evil environment.

Control the Words and you will control the mind. The curricula (words/textbooks) were written by highly intelligent and evil psychologists who embed evil ideology into YOUR little children!!! You are allowing your children to embed irrational, vile, anti-christian worldview (socialism/Darwinism/materialism/Mother Gaia worship, Ba’al rites, etc.) if they stay in those artificial, brainwashing systems of sophisticated psy-ops. Children need FREE PLAY, FREE ASSOCIATION (for NORMAL SEXUAL IDENTITY FORMATION) and TRUTH (GOD) to be rational and have virtue formation which needs HABITS of Virtue—thinking for self (Virtue is completely absent in the programmed, ignorant puppet, Hogg).

Only Classical Christian curricula gives the mind “tools” to think for themselves and the hyper sexualization (Sex Ed) in all the skools will destroy virtue formation by warping concepts of male and female, reducing them to meaningless animals, and the curricula was designed to destroy Christian (Western Civ) worldview (wisdom/virtue) in your children. The skools are erasing the Age of Reason, free will and individualism for group/tribal atomization (so children will not be able to connect with opposite sex, each other in a positive way, and they grow up to hate and want to kill their own children)-—all for the NWO of test-tube babies (if any), tiny micro-apartment “smart” cities of total controlled and programmed “bots”. PC is self-controlled slavery. No ability to say the truth—no free will and no ability to “think” period.

Controlled “words” in schools do control the mind. It is Mind Control—exactly the plans of the evil communists/Freemasons/sick Crowley groupies, John Dewey, Horace Mann, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Morgan, DuPont, Carnegie, etc., who have always tried to control textbooks with embedded psychological control of minds of young children (won completely by 1970 in America). (Wundt, Fichte, Pavlov, Watson— Leipzig U. did lobotomies and conditioning experiments on humans in 1800s Germany to perfect mind control).

Big Pharma is used also (part of the Marxist “soma” plan to control proper emotions) to destroy agency (the mind) and keep people sick and dependent (atomized—destroy the Natural family is essential for Marxism to flourish), so they are incapable of fighting the “System” (all unconstitutional since takeover by The House of Rothschild (Lucifereans) in 1913 with the bribed and controlled evil President Wilson who put the Hegelian Dialectic into full force with continual monetary support from us, the taxpayers).

As Kruschev stated; We will pay for the rope that hangs us. He knew we had a massive brainwashing system in place (”Marxist Income tax”, Federal Reserve (to create and fund wars/depressions/people depopulation), public schools and Pravda/Hollywood Press) in America by the 50s which could control our attentions, and embed Big Lies by repetition (esp. with programmed, conditioned “bots” from cradle to grave). The Marxists had almost total control of America “kulture” (along with all publik schools) by the 70s.


127 posted on 03/12/2018 8:58:07 AM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: mac_truck
Look familiar?

We've been hearing about how these "survivors" are theatre students. I'll bet I can guess which Cabaret scene David remembers best.

128 posted on 03/12/2018 9:01:03 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I don’t care what Hogg says, he’s a useful teen idiot.


129 posted on 03/12/2018 9:03:35 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’m reminded of years ago when the liberal ARKANSAS GAZETTE had a 16 year old kid write an editorial for gun control.

His article showed he did not know his head from his butt about what he was talking about. I answered his editorial mentioning that he needed to get a few more years of growth and learning before he took on gun control. He might by then realize HE needed a gun in the area he lived, which was Little Rock.

Not long after, the Arkansas Gazette collapsed and was swept up by the conservative ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT. It is now the ARK-DEM-GAZETTE.

Same for these SFB kids (S**t for brains).


130 posted on 03/12/2018 9:06:59 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Re-open the insane asylums, stop drugging the kids.)
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To: dfwgator

“the future belo-o-ongs to me!”


131 posted on 03/12/2018 9:11:13 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Re-open the insane asylums, stop drugging the kids.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

And we are supposed to pay attention to a 16 year old who admits he is not mature enough to own or buy a rifle till 21?

I had a rifle and was buying ammo on my own at 14 years of age. Today, if I was 14, I would have to wait 7 more years just to buy ammo.


132 posted on 03/12/2018 9:22:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Re-open the insane asylums, stop drugging the kids.)
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To: mac_truck
That right there is a picture of what, depending on the source, a 17 to 19-yo kid who has never done an honest day's manual work in his life, nor played any sport nor engaged in any other vigorous physical activity.

Nor would one be surprised if he's never picked up any musical instrument more than a half dozen times or so because he would have discovered that THAT activity would require hard, systematized work, even though it might be less physically strenuous.

Being of ectomorphic body type, this lack of stimulus has endowed him with a not only thin, but underdeveloped and emaciated frame, (look at the picture, particularly his arm with the armband) which in turn has had an affect on his psyche.

It's now so much easier for him to just go join the "socially dissatisfied" crowd and engage in thespian activities that are so inclined. See the expression on his face at rest.

He'll either grow up to be a sour, unpleasant young sissy-man, or he'll become a Josef Goebbels character, which he does seem to aspire to. (See armband...)

BTW, henceforth known on any thread I visit as "Trianglefaceboy". Keyword added.

133 posted on 03/12/2018 9:28:25 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner
He'll either grow up to be a sour, unpleasant young sissy-man...

So you're saying he has a shot at hosting a late night comedy/anti-Trump show or as a weasly "reporter" at one of the hate filled leftist "news" outlets. He really is perfect for the reporter role, he can inject his radical bias into every story and pretend like the rest of them that they are reporting news and are not actually Left WIng activists with a mic.

134 posted on 03/12/2018 9:34:16 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
So...Hogg is gay.

Figured a drama queen would be..........

135 posted on 03/12/2018 9:37:02 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This little guy has never developed the skill to think logically and rationally.

So, he draws conclusions based on faulty premises. And makes statements that are not based on facts.

So, of course CNN loves him. He’s one of them.


136 posted on 03/12/2018 9:38:26 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: NorthMountain

Even Kim Jong Uncola has seen the light America’s 5th column don’t


137 posted on 03/12/2018 9:44:38 AM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

And this is why we should raise the voting age to 21. Of course there is little hope this misguided young man would learn the difference between a privilege and a right the remainder of high school or even most colleges.


138 posted on 03/12/2018 9:47:46 AM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Blueflag

Exactly. During this issue, I keep reading some of his babbling cited, without quotation, and I feel like I should go read it so I know what the original article is talking about but can’t seem to make myself waste the time.


139 posted on 03/12/2018 10:01:57 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Fresh Wind
Would Kamera Hogg praise the Third Reich where gun ownership was treated as a privilege, rather than a right? How about the USSR? How about Mao's China? Turkey? Guatemala? Uganda? Cambodia?

Unfortunately, probably yes.

140 posted on 03/12/2018 10:03:15 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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