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Ross Olmos: NRA built on false notion that gun rights are absolute
ocala.com ^ | 3/12/2018 | Ross Olmos

Posted on 03/14/2018 1:56:27 PM PDT by rktman

As a first step, I would like to challenge Sen. Rubio to publically explain why any American civilian actually needs to own a military assault weapon.

The 2nd Amendment of our Constitution consists of 26 words written in arcane language that has caused much confusion down through the years. Since the amendment was written at a time in our history where virtually every home contained a flintlock musket and gun ownership was an accepted, normal part of everyday life, it’s reasonable to believe that, rather than dealing with individual gun ownership, the 2nd Amendment was intended to protect the right of each state to have its own “well regulated militia.”

However, the NRA has taken the last 14 words of the amendment, “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,” strictly out of context, to promote a pro-gun agenda that has been amazingly successful. The NRA is recognized as the most powerful and influential government lobbying group in the U.S. They have bought and/or intimidated many politicians — including our own Sen. Marco Rubio, who has taken millions from the NRA — into adopting and promoting their agenda, which includes the following:

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; editorials; nra; secondamendment
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The same old,tired flntlock argument could be used to limit freedom of the press to manually typeset hand cranked printing presses. The Founders didn’t foresee radio, TV, modern printing presses, cell phones,computers, and the internet,thus they have no free speech protection.


61 posted on 03/14/2018 2:54:42 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: Secret Agent Man

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>> “They know exactly what intent and wording is here from the federalist paper writings debating the amendments.” <<

They’re trying to forget!
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62 posted on 03/14/2018 2:56:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jeffc

1. The people who wrote the Constitution were familiar with the essentials of what is a short step to modern firearms. George Washington saw a sales pitch for, and turned down only because of manufacturing limitations, demonstration of the Puckle Gun (basically a machinegun). Thomas Jefferson personally gave Lewis & Clark the equivalent of a 22-shot semiautomatic .45 caliber rifle.

2. Militia Act of 1792 obligated all draft-suitable citizens equip themselves with rifles etc equivalent to what any soldier would have, or meet, on the battlefield. Today that would be a suppressed M4 with 1 case of ammo.

3. I’m more concerned about 922(o) completely prohibiting any ownership of modern standard-issue military arms period. I’ve ponied up the $400 for a suppressed semi-auto M4 SBR, but that the feds would jail me having an actual M4 should be more concerning to everyone.


63 posted on 03/14/2018 2:57:01 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: editor-surveyor

You are correct of course. Thanks.


64 posted on 03/14/2018 2:57:36 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: rktman
the 2nd Amendment was intended to protect the right of each state to have its own “well regulated militia.”

I'll bite. How can we have a well regulated militia without superior firepower?

They don't even win that argument.

65 posted on 03/14/2018 3:06:58 PM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: ctdonath2
that the feds would jail me having an actual M4 should be more concerning to everyone.

Yes. The Hughes Amendment and the National Firearms Act are clear, undisputable, violations of the Second Amendment.

66 posted on 03/14/2018 3:08:57 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: rktman

67 posted on 03/14/2018 3:09:32 PM PDT by Bobalu (12 diet Cokes and a fried chicken...)
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To: rktman

26 words written in arcane language

Only for those where English is their Second Language or the Really Stupid in our society.


68 posted on 03/14/2018 3:12:24 PM PDT by eyeamok (Tolerance: The virtue of having a belief in Nothing!)
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To: rktman

Love how this headline is written to imply this Ross Olmos is someone we should have heard about or care what he has to say.


69 posted on 03/14/2018 3:12:57 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: Sgt_Schultze; elteemike

Thanks - I’m saving those.

See my profile...


70 posted on 03/14/2018 3:18:58 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: editor-surveyor

“explain why any American civilian actually needs to own a military assault weapon.”

This is especially disingenuous when considering how very strictly regulated true military firearms are in both the United States and Canada (where only those registered to the legal owner before January 1 1978 are allowed) and also that no legally owned fully automatic rifle has ever been used by it’s legal owner in the commission of a violent crime in these two countries.


71 posted on 03/14/2018 3:19:14 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: rktman

Love how this headline is written to imply this Ross Olmos is someone we should have heard about or care what he has to say. “Stand back everyone, ROSS OLMOS is speaking!”


72 posted on 03/14/2018 3:21:14 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: OttawaFreeper

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Everything about the “gun grabber” philosophy is dishonest and disingenuous.
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73 posted on 03/14/2018 3:27:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: karatemom

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>> “Why do I have a gun ? Because I can.” <<

And because not having one is irresponsible and insane.
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74 posted on 03/14/2018 3:30:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: frogjerk

Please read the Second Amendment and apply the commas, which are clearly separating two rights, not just the militia. The second being the people, having right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Those are two rights, both (by comma) shall not be infringed. See Second Amendment in bright blue square in link.

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii


75 posted on 03/14/2018 3:31:47 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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To: rktman

“written in arcane language”

It ain’t Latin, dumb***.


76 posted on 03/14/2018 3:35:37 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: KrisKrinkle

Following his line of reasoning though, abortion is a threat to the public at large, since it’s reducing the birthrate we need to sustain the country. So individual women’s rights need to be superseded to protect us from the threat of abortion.

Islamic terrorism is also a threat to the public at large, so individual muslims’ right to freedom of religion needs to be superseded to protect us from the threat of muslim terror.

He should agree with those positions too, right?


77 posted on 03/14/2018 3:38:57 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: rktman
Our politicians and officials no longer feel they have to follow the laws of our government AND THEY'RE GETTING ELECTED ON THIS

Truly a scary time.
78 posted on 03/14/2018 3:41:24 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Boogieman

You can say dumbass. It’s okay. ;-)


79 posted on 03/14/2018 3:44:34 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

Does he mean the same arcane language with which the first amendment is written? Because if it’s good enough to interpret the first amendment, then it’s good enough for the second, which, of course does not mention ball and musketry. He is just reading what he wants into it, where it’s convenient to his twisted ideology. So deceitful.


80 posted on 03/14/2018 3:47:38 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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