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yes, “islam is part of our history”
Frontpagemagazine ^ | 2018-04-06 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 04/06/2018 3:56:44 AM PDT by SJackson

... but hardly in the way that European elites claim.

Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center

European Commission First Vice-President Frans Timmermans recently chaired a roundtable with ten Muslim imams from six EU Member States (Belgium, Bulgaria, France, Germany, Italy and The Netherlands).  Afterwards Timmermans announced that “the Commission is strongly committed to promoting diversity in Europe. Islam is part of our history, Islam is part of our present and Islam will be part of our future.” 

Such assertions are as true as the assumptions they are based on—and whether such assumptions are grounded in historical facts or fictions. In prefacing his claims about Islam’s historic role in Europe by saying “the Commission is strongly committed to promoting diversity in Europe,” it is clear which perception Timmermans is invoking.

The true, historically documented role that Islam played has a much different story to tell: in the early seventh century, sword-waving Arabs burst out of the Arabian Peninsula and in a few decades conquered some two-thirds of what then constituted the Christian world—from Syria and Egypt in the east to Carthage and Spain in the west and everything in between.  One hundred years after the death of their prophet (traditionally dated to 632), they were in the heart of France where, thanks to their defeat at Tours in 732, and other Frankish victories, the whole of Europe was also not conquered.  

But where lands could not be subjugated, bodies still could, and for the next few centuries the jihad turned into a giant slave trade of European flesh, as slave raids left virtually no part of Europe untouched (even the Viking raids in northern Europe were in large measure fueled by Arab gold).

In the tenth and eleventh centuries, the Turks—who embraced the jihad ethos even more than the Arabs—converted to Islam and became its new standard bearers.  Although they had notable victories and conquests—particularly after the Seljuk victory against the Eastern Roman Empire in 1071—it was only with the coming of the Ottomans that the jihad on Europe was renewed in earnest: in the late 1300s and early 1400s, much of the Balkans was brutally subjugated, and Constantinople—Islam’s original archenemy—finally (and horrifically) sacked in 1453. 

The Ottoman advance continued unabated—the European victory at Lepanto in 1571 was more symbolic than anything—and in 1683 Vienna was encircled by hundreds of thousands of Muslims.  As happened nearly a millennium earlier when the Islamic advance into Europe was stayed in 732, a Christian victory at Vienna only caused Muslims to collapse back to their more modest role as slave traders of white flesh: between the fifteenth and eighteenth centuries, Muslims slavers from the Crimean khanate in the east and the Barbary coast enslaved more than five million Europeans—including in the late 1700s, American sailors, precipitating the Barbary Wars. 

Perhaps the most telling aspect of this aforementioned history is the evident continuity of hostility in distinctly Islamic terms: the Muslim notion that all infidels have three choices—conversion, willing capitulation via jizya/dhimmi status, or death; the willful and mass destruction of churches, crosses, and anything Christian; the sadistic atrocities that beggar description; the shouts of “Allahu Akbar” and other jihadi slogans; the invocations of Koranic promises of a carnal paradise for those who fall in jihad—all these are present in virtually every encounter between Muslim and European, beginning at the fateful battle of Yarmuk in 636, to America’s experiences with Barbary circa. 1800, as copiously documented in my forthcoming book, Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the West

Such is the true role Islam played in Europe’s past.  

As for its role in the present, this is built on Europeans being entirely ignorant of—when not willfully twisting—this unwavering history of hostility; welcoming Muslims into their lands en masse—and in the name of “diversity”; suffering accordingly, and then wondering what they, European host nations, did wrong. 

Considering the unwavering part Islam played in the past and continues to play in the present, it remains to be seen if the West will build its future atop facts or fictions—getting its just deserts in either case. 

 


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: europe; european; history; islam; muslim; muslims
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To: SJackson

Here is some enlightening U.S. history of Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates (Tripoli):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War


21 posted on 04/06/2018 5:09:58 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Telepathic Intruder
To the shores of Tripoli. America’s first encounter with Islam was a war which they started. They started by capturing our peaceful merchant ships off the Barbary coast, killing or enslaving their crews, every man woman and child. When asked, they said their religion compelled them.

That whole Barbary Coast war thing was a significant conflict in our early history. Islam

22 posted on 04/06/2018 5:14:00 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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To: SJackson

Islam is also a part of US history.
Morocco was one the first nations to fire a salute to the US flag.
Far from being a sign of respect, this was a notification that the fledgling US was no longer protected by British tribute payments to the Barbary Pirates, and the US now had to begin its own tribute payments to these parasites to protect our merchants.
We know that that eventually turned out: “From the Halls of Montezuma, to the Shores of Tripoli...”


23 posted on 04/06/2018 5:19:45 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: SJackson
They are part of our history. They were the first major assholes our kids had to go overseas to kill.

"Hold this for me, would you?"


24 posted on 04/06/2018 5:29:08 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SJackson
A Dark Foul Smelling Blood soaked stain.
25 posted on 04/06/2018 5:38:52 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: SandRat

“It was The Moops”.


26 posted on 04/06/2018 6:03:08 AM PDT by MGG
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To: mythenjoseph
The subhuman’s that follow Islam are to be eliminated or corralled on their sandy land.

One of the preludes to WWII, was British PM Chamberlain proclaiming, "peace in our time" after his meeting with the Nazis'. Churchill was one of the few in Britain who knew better.

Today, the West is led by Chamberlains's. The blind are leading the blind. Politicians and Muslims cry 'peace, peace', when there is no peace. Taqiyya !

When we fought WWII we understood the cost of losing. The end game for us was the "unconditional surrender" of our enemies. With Islam, our goal should be no different and yet we have western governments attempting to co-exist with the evil that is Islam.

There can be no compromise with evil ideologies like Nazism or Islam - only victory or defeat!

27 posted on 04/06/2018 6:11:02 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: SJackson

Christians Unite!

On El Cid
On Charles Martel
On Jan Sobieski - who, after he won the battle and freed Vienna from the siege, wrote to the Pope and stated, “Veni, Vidi, Deus Vici”, meaning We came, “We saw, God conquered.”


28 posted on 04/06/2018 7:01:06 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: PIF

Bookmark


29 posted on 04/06/2018 7:09:05 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: USCG SimTech

A significant conflict. Not a contribution. Islam, the cancer, deals nothing but death. Its followers claim to love death more than life. Allah is death. Jesus said God is a God of the living. Hence, Allah is not God. He’s the devil.


30 posted on 04/06/2018 7:10:49 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: SJackson

And George Bush was full of falafel. islam in no way means peace.


31 posted on 04/06/2018 7:22:50 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Sasparilla
Islam is part of our history, Islam is part of our present and Islam will be part of our future

Better, re: Europe-> Islam is part of our history, Islam is part of our present and Islam will be our future

32 posted on 04/06/2018 8:06:24 AM PDT by arthurus (tgg2y147p)
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To: SJackson

Islam is part of our history the way Nazism was. Nazism was defeated. Islam has to be defeated too.


33 posted on 04/06/2018 11:31:21 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: SJackson

Islam... imprisoned Captain John Smith as a galley slave. He escaped and went on to lead the Jamestown Colony.

Islam... is the enemy in our first foreign war, the one against the Barbary Pirates that is remembered in the Marine Hymn.

That’s Islam’s contribution to American history


34 posted on 04/06/2018 11:58:21 AM PDT by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: metmom

The Pentagon ring where my dad had his office years ago.
Friends of mine saw the plane going in.
The pilot of flight 77 had been a schoolmate of mine here in SoCal.


35 posted on 04/06/2018 12:06:37 PM PDT by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: Pelham

Were you at all surprised when you found out who the pilot was?

Or could you tell back in school?


36 posted on 04/06/2018 12:09:29 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

I didn’t know him. I was surprised to find that I’d gone to school with him. He was a senior, I was a sophomore and I’d just moved to California. That year I didn’t get to know many who weren’t in my own classes. His sister was in my graduating class but I only knew her in passing.


37 posted on 04/06/2018 12:37:16 PM PDT by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: Pelham
Islam... is the enemy in our first foreign war, the one against the Barbary Pirates that is remembered in the Marine Hymn.

And the establishment of an essentially permanent Navy.

38 posted on 04/06/2018 2:47:48 PM PDT by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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To: SJackson

the bias against a standing military died a quick death


39 posted on 04/06/2018 4:10:40 PM PDT by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: miss marmelstein

That’s partly true. Our founders studied the Cherokee Nation constitution. This tribe had a written language and a documented formal system of government.


40 posted on 04/06/2018 6:07:40 PM PDT by vortec94
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