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Chem. weapons dumped at sea corroding but haven't yet released toxic contents [Hawaii 2010 news] TR
DMZ Hawaii ^ | July 28, 2010 | Kyle

Posted on 04/14/2018 11:25:57 AM PDT by Jyotishi

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1 posted on 04/14/2018 11:25:58 AM PDT by Jyotishi
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Hmmmm. Not a word about the chemical munitions
dumped in the Atlantic after both world wars...


2 posted on 04/14/2018 11:28:40 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Nor those in the North Sea, or the Farallon Islands off of San Fran. Maybe that’s why those White sharks get so big....


3 posted on 04/14/2018 11:36:35 AM PDT by Amberdawn (If Leftists Didn't Live By Double Standards, They'd Have No Standards At All.)
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To: tet68

Mentions WWII munitions dumped...still intact...


4 posted on 04/14/2018 11:36:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Jyotishi

“The Horror of Party Beach” (1964)


5 posted on 04/14/2018 11:38:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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quick google tells you that there are 187 quintillion gallons of water in the Pacific.

This is dumping about 613025 gallons of chemicals.

There’s a math of parts per million to go into, but it doesn’t take a genius to recognize that the amount contemplated is negligible amount.


6 posted on 04/14/2018 11:39:52 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: Amberdawn; tet68

Nor Johnston Island . Pacific Ocean. Radioactive debris due to high altitude tests. Agent Orange. etc. Not on my places to visit...


7 posted on 04/14/2018 11:50:32 AM PDT by donozark (Restraining orders are just another way of saying I love you.)
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To: Bayard

The chemical weapons were dumped close to the shoreline, according to the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, March 1981 (available free online). Also, Sarin gas was tested on land:

U.S. Military secretly tested Sarin Nerve gas in Hawaii

http://malu-aina.org/?p=4597


8 posted on 04/14/2018 11:51:32 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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Your calculation is certainly correct after complete dilution in all the world’s oceans has taken place, but neglects the reality that the concentration will be quintillions of times higher at the location of the actual leaks, before any significant dilution has taken place. These higher concentrations will easily be lethal to local life in the vicinity of the munitions.

Note also that if companies attempted to dump such chemicals in the oceans, they’d be fined millions of dollars for gross negligence. But, since the government did it, everything’s hunky dory.


9 posted on 04/14/2018 11:52:04 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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Cyanides are common metabolic products of bacteria and plants. This whole thing is a big nothingburger.


10 posted on 04/14/2018 11:59:51 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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The article doesn’t mention exactly how deep the munitions are. Oahu is surrounded by the Kaua’i Deep to the north, the O’ahu Deep to the west, and the Lana’i Deep to the south. They’re all at least 3 miles deep.

There’s little mixing of such deep waters. The munitions are far below the thermocline.


11 posted on 04/14/2018 12:00:43 PM PDT by Colinsky
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There is so much toxic crap buried in our country and off of our shores that we may never find it all. That’s just the way government did things during WWII and Cold War.


12 posted on 04/14/2018 12:03:45 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Undersea volcanic vents spew hydrogen sulfide, hydrogen cyanide, and assorted other nasty things... yet there’s life around them, even life dependent on chemicals that would kill people...


13 posted on 04/14/2018 12:16:56 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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We used to dispose of 20mm overboard, not such a good idea, but cyanide among other things? Isn’t this just wonderful?


14 posted on 04/14/2018 12:19:41 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winnings)
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At least when Claudius, Emperor of Rome dumped his grandmother’s chest of poisons (Poison is Queen) into the ocean, shortly after thousands of dead fish floated to the surface. Claudius ordered that anyone eating the fish were to be put to death.- Claudius the God by Graves.


15 posted on 04/14/2018 12:48:02 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Meanwhile, Hawaii is about to ban sunscreen because of bad science saying it hurts coral.


16 posted on 04/14/2018 12:50:37 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Bayard
There’s a math of parts per million to go into, but it doesn’t take a genius to recognize that the amount contemplated is negligible amount.

But it would (will) take hundreds, if not tousands, of years to become fully diluted. If that is even possible.

Water exchange in the depths is very slow as there is no wind or sun to power movement as on the surface and in shallows.

In the short term seepage will be concentrated around the leaking containers.

More so at greater depths.

That's probably a good thing as the introduction of leaked chemicals into surrounding waters will be further slowed giving natural processes enen more time to dissipate the poisons.

Still, it is a shortsighted way to dispose of munitions and other dangerous substances.

17 posted on 04/14/2018 12:54:16 PM PDT by Iron Munro (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. -- Voltaire.)
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You would be correct IF the dispersal were uniform over the entire volume. That is not how leaks happen. Coral reefs are very delicate habitats. An entire habitat can be wiped out with a drifting concentration of these toxic brews.


18 posted on 04/14/2018 1:19:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Jyotishi

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4otn6892-Rg


19 posted on 04/14/2018 1:42:00 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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Didn’t seem to bother or stop the Japanese in Dec of ‘41


20 posted on 04/14/2018 1:57:56 PM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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