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why Bomb Syria? Yes, American Interests Are Being Served By Striking Assad
Frontpage Mag ^ | 04/17/2018 | Bruce Thornton

Posted on 04/17/2018 8:35:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: McGruff

RE: Haven’t we learned the lesson of Libya and Iraq?

I think we are, that’s why we’re not toppling Assad.


41 posted on 04/17/2018 9:39:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Alberta's Child
Sure it has -- from someone typing on a computer keyboard. That kind of attitude will ensure it never ends.

This this idiotic mentality under Obama that allowed for the rise of ISIS and threat to the Americans it posed home and abroad.

I bet happy when Obama withdrew early from Iraq, weren't you?

42 posted on 04/17/2018 9:40:49 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: dfwgator

“Why are we always fighting for Muslims?”

In the next to last paragraph the article mentions a goal of a liberal democracy. What good comes out of combining liberal, democracy, and Muslims?


43 posted on 04/17/2018 9:43:38 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Afghanistan needed a punitive expedition and an early departure.

You must have agreed with Obama withdrawing from Iraq when he did, right?

That moronic decision allowed a terrorist group that hated this country to takeover large parts of Iraq and have a base of operation to kill Americans. Brilliant!

Let me guess, you're a Rand Paul supporter.

44 posted on 04/17/2018 9:46:02 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: SeekAndFind

put me in the “no they’re not column”


45 posted on 04/17/2018 9:47:42 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Alberta's Child

Obama created ISIS. And, his inept policies (like withdrawing from Iraq too early) allowed it to become a threat to American citizens.


46 posted on 04/17/2018 9:48:08 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
U.S. troops were withdrawn from Iraq under the terms of the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) that was signed in November 2008 by President George W. Bush. Under the terms of the SOFA, all U.S. troops were to be removed from Iraq by December 31, 2011.

The last U.S. troops officially left Iraq on December 18, 2011.

If you really think 13 days would have made any difference in Making Iraq Great Again, please explain it here.

47 posted on 04/17/2018 9:49:26 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
If it hadn't been Obama it would have been somebody else. The American public was tired of seeing their sons dead and maimed in that pointless quaqmire.

It was idiotic decision and it resulted in the majority wanting us to go back and wipe ISIS. That is what Trump ran on -- wiping out ISIS.

It would equally stupid to withdraw from Afghanistan. I don't give a damn if we're there for the next 50 years if that is what it takes to keep the Islamic terrorist threat to the US under control.

48 posted on 04/17/2018 9:50:12 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
What exactly did a U.S. military presence in these sh!t-holes do to diminish the "Islamic terrorist threat" presented by these people -- to name just a few?

Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez
Dahir Adan
Syed Rizwan Farook & Tashfeen Malik
Nidal Hassan
Omar Mateen
Ahmad Khan Rahimi
Sayfullo Saipov
Dzhokhar & Tamerlan Tsarnaev

49 posted on 04/17/2018 10:01:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Jim Noble

“Screw that.

No, we do not have such a capacity, we do not desire it, and if the “world” is “growing closer” we should do all in our power to reverse the process”

Post of the day.


50 posted on 04/17/2018 10:06:45 AM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (War is not the answer.)
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To: SeekAndFind; WisconsinRep; JayGalt; Alberta's Child; Colonel Kangaroo; Leaning Right
Seem like a pretty good article. This letter was my take on the raid.

From: Retain Mike

Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:11 AM

To: WSJ Letters (wsj.ltrs@wsj.com) wsj.ltrs@wsj.com

Subject: Striking Syrian Chemical Weapons

The U.S. Naval Institute article titled “Senators Quiz Military Leaders on U.S. Forces in Syria after ISIS” is interesting, because of the map presenting areas controlled by various armed factions. This colorful crazy quilt identifies Syrian Kurds and Aligned Forces, Syrian Government Forces, Islamic State Forces, Syrian Opposition Forces, Turkish Military Backed Forces, and some white areas for which evidently no one can hazard a guess. Remote from each other are two tiny circles labeled U.S./Coalition Military. The map does not account for Israeli airstrikes. What an endless array of possible permutations for factions to fight each other.

Clearly Assad should not introduce chemical weapons, banned by international law, into this melee. The second strike comes after Putin received ample warning he was allowing actions Stalin, Khrushchev, or Brezhnev of the old Soviet Union would never have approved. Those leaders authorized allies to use armed force only to the extent they were well within the options the Soviet Union could manage politically.

Concurrently, I wonder how one could divine any meaningful level of involvement in the face of such turmoil? A comprehensive ceasefire seems remote. Even if achieved, then where do you find the diplomatic skills needed to sort out the combatants into peaceful agrarian villages like you see on Star Trek?

However, the alternative should be a Russian/Iranian dominated Syria under Assad, and that could be unpleasant.

Senators Quiz Military Leaders on U.S. Forces in Syria after ISIS https://news.usni.org/2018/03/13/senators-quiz-military-leaders-u-s-forces-syria-isis?utm_source=USNI+News&utm_campaign=4be94c77a1-USNI_NEWS_DAILY&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0dd4a1450b-4be94c77a1-230377553&mc_cid=4be94c77a1&mc_eid=d1b7ba249a

51 posted on 04/17/2018 10:15:09 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: SeekAndFind

Total BS.


52 posted on 04/17/2018 10:31:16 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Alberta's Child
What exactly did a U.S. military presence in these sh!t-holes do to diminish the "Islamic terrorist threat" presented by these people -- to name just a few?

We had just about wiped Al Qaeda out by the end of the Bush years. Going to Afghanistan and combating the terrorist threat was one of the few things Bush got right.

It was a mistake to go to Iraq but was equally stupid to withdraw too early from Iraq and let ISIS run amok and murder and plot terrorist acts against Americans.

Islamic terrorism is a absolutely a national security threat and ignoring it won't make it go away.

53 posted on 04/17/2018 10:31:30 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Retain Mike
However, the alternative should be a Russian/Iranian dominated Syria under Assad, and that could be unpleasant.

Not an ideal situation, but much better than a Syria dominated by McCain's favorites.

54 posted on 04/17/2018 10:33:01 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Kazan
Islamic terrorism is a absolutely a national security threat and ignoring it won't make it go away.

Right.

You'll never convince me that this country is serious about Islamic terrorism when we undermine and topple secular dictators like the Hussein and Assad regimes ... while allowing the leading supporters of radical Islam (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan) to remain in place.

Oh ... and we're surely not serious about Islamic terrorism when we allow so many of these mutants to immigrate here, either.

55 posted on 04/17/2018 10:35:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Alberta's Child
You'll never convince me that this country is serious about Islamic terrorism when we undermine and topple secular dictators like the Hussein and Assad regimes

Agree with the Iraq war and Syrian policy or not, the intentions were/are correct. Turning Iraq into a Western-friendly democracy was a noble idea but it didn't work. Combating the Iranian-Russian-Syria alliance is also in the national interest but it ignores that fact that the alternatives to Assad are the greater evil.

56 posted on 04/17/2018 10:43:49 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
"It's not our job to turn Iraq into Switzerland." -- Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas)

Turning Iraq into a Western-friendly democracy was a noble idea but it didn't work.

It wasn't a noble idea. It was a delusional disaster.

Combating the Iranian-Russian-Syria alliance is also in the national interest ...

How is that?

57 posted on 04/17/2018 10:50:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

RE: Total BS

Can you elaborate further please.


58 posted on 04/17/2018 10:50:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Q: What does Syria and Boarder Protection have in common?
A: John McCain


59 posted on 04/17/2018 10:59:03 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Alberta's Child

Yep.

Was Mark Levin’s Sarah Palin Interview All About Quelling Bolton Criticism?
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3648215/posts


60 posted on 04/17/2018 11:01:14 AM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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