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NYPD seizes gun collection, ‘unprecedented’ amount of ammo
Guns.com ^ | 04/17/18 | Chris Eger

Posted on 04/18/2018 8:34:18 AM PDT by Simon Green

Officers with the 81st Precinct in the Bayside area of Queens seized over 60 guns and quantity of ammunition from an area man after a tip about illegal weapons.

Queens District Attorney Richard Brown announced Monday that Ronald Drabman, 60, was arrested over the weekend and charged with a staggering 110 weapons violations, mostly for criminal possession. Following a search warrant of his home’s basement, authorities seized 45 long arms, 23 pistols, a zip gun, a couple of airguns and 50,000 rounds of ammunition.

“The defendant is accused of using his home as a warehouse for illegal firearms – along with tens of thousands of rounds of live ammunition,” Brown said. “This stockpile of weapons poses a great risk to the residents of Queens. It is extremely disturbing to find such an arsenal of firearms in a residential community.”

NYPD Chief of Intelligence Thomas Galati said the gun bust was one of the largest in the department’s history from a single individual and well as what he described as an “unprecedented amount of ammunition.”

The firearms shown off at the conference included a number of collectible arms or at least guns rarely seen in Queens. Among these are an AR with what looks like a Colt Light Machine Gun front end, a Mossberg bullpup shotgun, and a Franchi SPAS-12. One of the rifles seems to be a fairly rare Italian BM59 in a Nigerian pistol grip stock while a Mauser 1934 Pocket Model, Walther P-38, and a Browning Hi-Power rest on table display of pistols.

If convicted, Drabman faces up to 25 years in prison.


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To: Simon Green

If I am not mistaken Most of those black rifles are not legal in the peoples republic of NY Or possibly he was convicted of a felony? Or his Spiteful Ex turned him in for domestic abuse? In any case he will spend more time in Jail than a gang banger that shoots someone.


21 posted on 04/18/2018 8:53:27 AM PDT by BobinIL
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I admit his collection was a bit ahead of mine, but I’m younger and have time to catch up.


22 posted on 04/18/2018 8:54:18 AM PDT by FLT-bird (.)
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To: Simon Green

If he was in Missouri he’d be considered a beginner.


23 posted on 04/18/2018 8:54:23 AM PDT by oldasrocks (rump)
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To: Simon Green

Using men with guns to seize guns because guns are bad. If owning 60+ guns is a crime in NYC, what’s the legal number of guns one can own?


24 posted on 04/18/2018 8:54:41 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Simon Green

“This stockpile of weapons poses a great risk to the residents of Queens.” Official Police statement.

There’s your defense. Ammo and guns are not a risk.
Only the owner can be deemed a risk.

If he is mentally sane and stable, no problem.
Oh, sorry, forgot which state we’re talking about. The guy’s gonna hang.


25 posted on 04/18/2018 9:01:24 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: DPMD
If owning 60+ guns is a crime in NYC, what’s the legal number of guns one can own?

It's not impossible to get a permit for a Fudd gun, but a handgun? Fuggedaboutit.....

26 posted on 04/18/2018 9:04:08 AM PDT by Simon Green
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To: slumber1

“As usual they don’t tell us what about these guns was illegal.”

At a glance, about half are “assault weapons” which perhaps were legally purchased upstate but illegally transported to NYC and not registered per the state’s SAFE law (grandfathered guns may be owned, but can ONLY be transferred, under all conditions, to the state).

60,000 rounds is only 1000 rounds per gun. That’s not much.


27 posted on 04/18/2018 9:08:18 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: onona

Only 50,000 rounds ?


Well, now that bump stocks are off the table that may be enough.


28 posted on 04/18/2018 9:18:25 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

It could be the GSG MP-5 clone. I see them everywhere.


29 posted on 04/18/2018 9:21:35 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Simon Green

At least people won’t fear those that have wooden stocks! They’re not assault weapons! /S


30 posted on 04/18/2018 9:31:09 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! Oathkeeper)
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To: Simon Green

” illegal firearms”

Many I see in the pic are perfectly legal.
So pretty much they’re admitting that they see all firearms as illegal.


31 posted on 04/18/2018 9:34:09 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Simon Green

Why are these weapons illegal?
A few months back there was a story of an Australian bloke arrested for 2 scoped sniper rifles and over 10000 rounds of ammunition. He had 2 Crosman Benjamin air rifles and 20 tins of pelletsat 500 pellets per tin.


32 posted on 04/18/2018 9:35:13 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: Simon Green
“This stockpile of weapons poses a great risk to the residents of Queens. It is extremely disturbing to find such an arsenal of firearms in a residential community.”

What a load of crap.

33 posted on 04/18/2018 9:38:28 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: ctdonath2
One of the rifles looks to be an M14. It has a pistol grip. I've seen a ton of M1As, and none had a pistol grip. The only examples that I have seen with a pistol grip have been GI and full auto capable.

The article doesn't do a very good job explaining what the guy got hauled in for but a bunch of these weapons could be full auto, which would go a long way toward an explanation.

The comments had several comments from people familiar with the story and a few mentioned that the guy was a felon and several others claimed the police found the guns while responding to a drug complaint.

Poor reporting was also obviously involved.

34 posted on 04/18/2018 9:44:50 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: skimbell

Yes, could be full auto. But those are quite hard to come by, being worth some 20x their semi-auto equivalents (which look identical).

Occam’s Razor: all of those are _easy_ to obtain in semi-auto form, and easy to transgress NY/NYC laws with - so that’s the far more likely case.

Heck, that looks a whole lot like (and numbers less than 5x bigger than) many of our collections - few of which include multiple full-auto guns.


35 posted on 04/18/2018 9:55:59 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: Simon Green
a couple of airguns and 50,000 rounds of ammunition.

I think I might have about 50,000 “rounds” of ammunition for my Daisy hand pump AR .177. It hold at least 100 rounds in the chamber.

36 posted on 04/18/2018 9:59:32 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Simon Green

The zip gun is probably illegal.


37 posted on 04/18/2018 10:12:03 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Simon Green

Nice starter kit...


38 posted on 04/18/2018 10:12:52 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Simon Green

3rd Column, 7th from the top - A nice looking Thompsons

Pretty sure that is not legal in Queens, New York.


39 posted on 04/18/2018 10:18:01 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Little Ray

It just looks like a gun collection to me. A lot of those weapons are not the kind of stuff that you would sell. The problem is two words: New York.


40 posted on 04/18/2018 10:22:25 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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