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WHAT!!!! How can that be? Ecowankers would lie about their push for all things renewable? According to the article, Cali's rates rose 24% between 2011 and 2017 and Germans saw a 51% increase from 2006 to 2016. Now comes Question 3 on the November Nevada ballot to open up our electricity market. Promises of 35,000 jobs reduced costs blah blah blah. NOT. If you're in NV, vote NO on 3.
1 posted on 04/24/2018 9:41:56 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

NON print:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/24/wind-and-solar-power-electricity-prices/


2 posted on 04/24/2018 9:42:40 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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For once, I”m not reading the article, so I can ask:

Is this guy really saying no one uses batteries to store the excess wind/solar power??? Jeez, I just have tiny bits of each, and I store the energy in batteries.


5 posted on 04/24/2018 10:07:33 AM PDT by blu (Save us the time of explaining the links...read the article...unless you're Lazamatz.)
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This should not be a surprise to anybody. Obummer was very (VERY) clear when he declared that the rise of electricity prices was going to be the price for the energy agenda that he and his fellow commies had envisioned for the world. Never mind that this cost is regressive as hell; that’s what government subsidies are for - yet another chain to fetter the poor voting bloc who are already in government yokes.


6 posted on 04/24/2018 10:07:47 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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I’m just getting my electric bill down to $132 from a high of $300 per month. Different plans from SCE dropped it to $180/$200 and last month I disconnected an old computer that ran 24/7 and my bill went down to $132 Pretty happy.


7 posted on 04/24/2018 10:12:41 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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That’s because politicians have created ridiculous laws mandating utilities produce a certain percentage of their power from “renewable” sources.

Given that the physics of wind and solar power make those targets unachievable, the utilities are required to ALLOCATE fossil fuel power to the “renewable” column.

The financial losses are actually much greater than recorded here, because they fail to include the cost of taxpayer subsidies to homeowners installing “renewable” energy sources.


9 posted on 04/24/2018 10:16:51 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Serious question for everyone, and I’m not trying to start a flame war. I’m genuinely curious:

If a homeowner decides to have solar panels installed on their home (a popular option for some Floridians), they often realize a significant cost savings in their utility bills due to local power generation vs. pulling from utility. Obviously utility use would go up in the evenings, as solar isn’t generating.

Wouldn’t this example be one reason for an increase in the cost of utilities if the utility companies have to increase rates in order to maintain their revenues? If everyone had some means of local power generation, the utility companies would have to provide less power over time except to those who aren’t on their own local power, but I think we all know that, like a bad law *coughObamaCarecough* being difficult to rescind, the power companies are loathe to lower rates lest their execs get less in their checks.


10 posted on 04/24/2018 10:27:15 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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RE:”Michael Shellenberger, the president and founder of Environmental Progress, explained in a Forbes blog post Monday how the unreliability of renewable energy sources, such as wind and solar, is the main reason why electricity bills around the world have been getting higher.”

The Sun and Wind are unreliable?

Can't be.

The Climate Change models show they are much more reliable than fossil based fuels.

Its sunny and windy 24-7.

To deny it is to deny science.

12 posted on 04/24/2018 10:35:44 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Florida school safety bill=gun grabbing)
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bfl


14 posted on 04/24/2018 10:59:31 AM PDT by gibsosa
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I wonder why so few folks are considering geothermal power as a renewable energy source. Because underground temperatures are constant, geothermal energy should be more reliable than the sun or wind, so anyone who can do the math will be able to figure out how much geothermal is needed. And though we have no volcanoes in Kentucky, I hear that heating water by geothermal wells is feasible even here.


18 posted on 04/24/2018 12:19:47 PM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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Solar & Wind: The two most expensive forms of electricity on the planet.


20 posted on 04/24/2018 12:36:35 PM PDT by Renkluaf
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Duh!

Never take economic advice from a liberal.


21 posted on 04/24/2018 12:37:38 PM PDT by PTBAA
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Figures environuts and leftist never get anything correct.


24 posted on 04/24/2018 12:52:17 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvete)
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The problem with this piece is that electricity prices have NOT been going up. In the cheap-gas era following the election of Ronald Reagan, the average residential KWh was 7.2 cents, or about 12.5 cents after adjusting for inflation.

Today, after getting as cheap as 9.2 cents in 2002, it’s still only 10.4 cents


30 posted on 05/07/2018 4:27:23 AM PDT by dangus
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I don't think there was a lie about pricing of the commodity, electricity. proponents were pretty open that green/renewable (excluding hydro) is more expensive than coal, gas, nuclear.

The true price differential was masked by taxpayer subsidies.

31 posted on 05/07/2018 4:30:22 AM PDT by Cboldt
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