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How to Stop the West from Committing Cultural Suicide
New York Post ^ | April 26, 2018 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 04/26/2018 6:27:33 PM PDT by firebrand

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Goldberg’s answer is so simple it seems too easy, and yet so difficult it seems unachievable. We need to teach and experience gratitude for what we have been given, which means reacquainting ourselves with the philosophical and scientific roots of the Miracle and then passing them on to our posterity. So much is arrayed against this effort, and yet we Americans, we tribal Americans, do long to belong to the American tribe.

In his pathbreaking book, Goldberg makes it clear all we need do to find our place is to understand that we are the beneficiaries of a great tradition that not only speaks the truth about us, but has rewarded us with gifts once beyond imagining. This is the book of the year.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2late; conservatism; history; liberalism; nationalism
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Excellent review of what is surely another of Jonah Goldberg's greatest books.
1 posted on 04/26/2018 6:27:34 PM PDT by firebrand
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Someone that would choose Hillary over Trump then write a book about the death of the west is playing the long DC Swamp payroll game.


2 posted on 04/26/2018 6:33:28 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: firebrand
Sorry, Jonah, but your title has been pre-empted by that of a true conservative classic.


3 posted on 04/26/2018 6:47:24 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: firebrand

Pablum. Preaching his empty rhetoric to a choir of one.


4 posted on 04/26/2018 6:47:30 PM PDT by Lent
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To: Lent

We have to forgive the Never-Trumpers. By making these judgments, we might be preventing them from joining Trump’s growing majority.

“Liberal fascism” was a coinage, I believe, when the book came out. Now it’s a meme on Facebook and everyone understands the point. Progress (the real kind).


5 posted on 04/26/2018 6:52:43 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
Jonah's at least 30 years too late. People should have acted back when Allan Bloom wrote “Closing of the American Mind” (1987); or 50 years ago when Hayek wrote “The Road to Serfdom.” We were warned many years ago, we just failed to take action.
6 posted on 04/26/2018 7:01:38 PM PDT by JGT
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Socialism is the suicide of the West. And Socialism is nothing other than cynicism directed at society - and concomitant naive faith in government.

Cynicism is an antonym for faith, and socialism is inherently hostile to God.

From Theodore Roosevelt's 1910 speech at the Sarbonne:
There is no more unhealthy being, no man less worthy of respect, than he who either really holds, or feigns to hold, an attitude of sneering disbelief toward all that is great and lofty, whether in achievement or in that noble effort which, even if it fails, comes to second achievement. A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life's realities - all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. They mark the men unfit to bear their part painfully in the stern strife of living, who seek, in the affection of contempt for the achievements of others, to hide from others and from themselves in their own weakness. The rôle is easy; there is none easier, save only the rôle of the man who sneers alike at both criticism and performance.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.


7 posted on 04/26/2018 7:03:53 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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Not quite the same point.


8 posted on 04/26/2018 7:08:54 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: samadams2000

Exactly my thoughts.

This man despises Trump and gladly told the world Hillary deserved his vote.

This man is a complete idiot.


9 posted on 04/26/2018 7:09:21 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: JGT

See comment 8.


10 posted on 04/26/2018 7:10:06 PM PDT by firebrand
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The key factoid animating “Suicide of the West” is this: For 2,000 years, everywhere on earth, the large mass of humanity lived on the equivalent of $1.90 a day. “Near subsistence living,” Goldberg writes, “defined human habitats for almost all of human history.”

Then something happened. In the 18th century. In Great Britain. It was a complex phenomenon Goldberg calls the Miracle — a new way of thinking about humanity and human achievement and personal liberty that unlocked a hidden door in the possibilities of the species.

What fascinated rapid cultural change was first cheap means of travel (trains, boats, planes) and now rapid communication.

The only way to preserve a culture is to actively protect it.

Letting in every alien culture and worse, those culture who historically have been at war with your culture, is suicide.

Teaching alien people gratitude won't cut it anymore.

Only keeping them out in the first place will.

11 posted on 04/26/2018 7:11:31 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Podhoretz gets it. Can’t wait to read the book.


12 posted on 04/26/2018 7:11:33 PM PDT by firebrand
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Wow! Amazing how far Podhoretz can crawl up Goldberg’s backside.


13 posted on 04/26/2018 7:13:22 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: firebrand

>> We have to forgive the Never-Trumpers.

Not while they continue to throw obstacles in our path — generally speaking...


14 posted on 04/26/2018 7:15:45 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: samadams2000
Spy magazine used to have a Logrolling report where they would show a quote of Talking Head #1 praising a book written by Talking Head #2 followed by a quote of TH#2 returning the favor for TH#1.

Expect a fawning review by Goldberg of a Podhoretz book soon!

15 posted on 04/26/2018 7:18:34 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: firebrand

Sorry, that ship has sailed.


16 posted on 04/26/2018 7:23:44 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: firebrand

Is a Western omelet the same as a Denver?


17 posted on 04/26/2018 7:37:39 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: firebrand

Jonah has outed himself as an embittered moron. I don’t even read his Twitter feed anymore, so I certainly won’t be buying his book.

As others have pointed out, he was at best ambivalent about the outcome of the 2016 race, which means he was ok with Hillary getting elected and putting the final nails in the coffin of this country. That he doesn’t understand how close we were (and yet still are) to losing it reinforces the point of how clueless he is and how he is only interested in conservative theory as long as it remains within the strictly hypothetical confines of a book or sprited beltway cocktail party discussions. This was he can express himself innocuously since he’ll never really have to suffer the embarrassment and shame among his liberal peers associated with actually implementing conservative policy.


18 posted on 04/26/2018 7:49:24 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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A reviewer who doesn’t support conservative candidates reviewing the book of an author who doesn’t support conservative candidates. These two wouldn’t support Trump against Hillary!


19 posted on 04/26/2018 8:05:53 PM PDT by TakebackGOP
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They both deal with ideas, not with politics. If you look at the idea being discussed, instead of their voting records, they are actually on Trump’s side. It gets to the guts of why we need patriotism, nationalism, and traditional values.

That’s what it seems from the review.

I will read the book and report back again.


20 posted on 04/26/2018 8:48:08 PM PDT by firebrand
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