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Truman May Have Been the Proto-Trump
NRO ^ | 10 May 2018 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 05/11/2018 8:12:25 AM PDT by Rummyfan

When President Harry S. Truman left office in January 1953, most Americans were glad to see him go. Since the introduction of presidential approval ratings, Truman’s 32 percent rating was the lowest for any departing president except for that of Richard Nixon, who 21 years later resigned amid the Watergate scandal.

Americans were tired of five consecutive Democratic presidential terms. The Depression and World War II were both over, and people wanted a different sort of leadership that could jump-start the economy.

The outsider Truman had been an accidental president to begin with. When an ailing President Franklin D. Roosevelt ran for an unprecedented fourth term in 1944, worried Democrat insiders panicked. They feared that far-left-wing Vice President Henry Wallace might end up president if Roosevelt died in office.

Party pros replaced Wallace with the obscure Truman, a Missouri senator. They assumed that if worse came to worst, the non-entity Truman would be a token caretaker president.

Earlier, Truman had been immersed in scandal, owing to his ties to corrupt Kansas City political boss Tom Pendergast.

When Truman took office after Roosevelt’s death in April 1945, he knew relatively nothing about the grand strategy of World War II. No one had told him anything about the ongoing atomic-bomb project.

But for the next seven-plus years, Truman shocked the country.

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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Nothing.....................


21 posted on 05/11/2018 8:31:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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To: Rummyfan
Truman dropped two big ones.


22 posted on 05/11/2018 8:32:15 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Luke21
And possibly tens of millions of Japanese lives, including many civilians that would have been pressed into service in essentially suicide attacks against the invading Allies.

A more interesting aspect: the Japanese surrender also ended up saving several breeds of dogs that originated in Japan. The Hokkaido, Akita, Shiba, Kishu, Shikoku and Tosa breeds that originated in Japan would be extinct right now had we been forced to invade the country.

But getting back on topic, Truman would be considered a conservative by 2018 standards, especially in regards to religion.

23 posted on 05/11/2018 8:36:48 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Nothing, that’s why it doesn’t end in a period.


24 posted on 05/11/2018 8:41:54 AM PDT by gnickgnack2 ( Another bad day for Trump, he only got seven major things accomplished .)
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To: Rummyfan

We want a President who will enforce the laws and borders.

That was why Trump was elected.

Both parties have been preventing US from doing that for decades.


25 posted on 05/11/2018 8:44:14 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
What did the “S” in HST stand for ?

President Truman did NOT have a middle name. He added the S because if fit a public personna and sounded good.

26 posted on 05/11/2018 8:46:56 AM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: gnickgnack2; Eric in the Ozarks

It stands for both grandfathers, Shipp and Solomon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman


27 posted on 05/11/2018 8:51:49 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: ProudFossil

Please see #27.


28 posted on 05/11/2018 8:52:15 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: laplata

I can’t believe the idiocy of some who think using atomic weapons on japan wasn’t the best solution. Japan would have been wiped from existence! The war machine that was ready to invade would have been the largest in world history. Mind you the bombing raids that would come prior to soften it up would have made Hiroshima look like a 4th of July fire work. Literally millions of conventional bombs were being readied to drop.


29 posted on 05/11/2018 9:01:18 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: RayChuang88

An uncle, a Navy Commander and skipper of a LST (Laarge Slow Target) division always credited Harry S Truman’s ordering the bombs dropped with saving his life and those of his entire group.
Scheduled for FIRST wave of landings on Japanese soil. He had already penned a “farewell letter” to my grandparents. Thanks to Harry that letter was burned, not sent.


30 posted on 05/11/2018 9:02:41 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( i)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I read that Truman wrote a lot of angry letters that he never mailed. He let out steam by writing them. He put them into a desk drawer and kept them there.


31 posted on 05/11/2018 9:07:09 AM PDT by forgotten man
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
So was your uncle part of the planned invasion fleet for Operation Olympic, the invasion of southern Kyushu? That would have been a bloodbath on both sides because the Japanese had moved a huge number of troops, artillery and ammunition to defend the southern end of Kyushu by August 1945.
32 posted on 05/11/2018 9:24:07 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Fiji Hill

Sadly (and oddly) he was just seen as a nobody to hold the VP spot until the end of FDR’s 4th term, as if FDR was going to live more than a few months.

And because of that, he was cut off at the knees by the FDR crew, that were almost politically out of steam, but still ran the show when he took over.

Truman knew he had to “color inside the lines” if he was to be anything other than a figurehead.


33 posted on 05/11/2018 9:28:27 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
And note in this letter the sensationally brilliant use of language without having to use any of the seven dirty words of George Carlin (in)famy.
34 posted on 05/11/2018 9:30:55 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: miliantnutcase

You’re right on!

My Dad would have been involved in the second phase of the invasion. He was in the initial occupation of Japan and he said what they found underground was amazing. It would have been horrendous.


35 posted on 05/11/2018 9:36:09 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Red Badger

I had an old Tech Sgt in the USAF tell us that Truman desegregated the Armed forces AFTER Chinese units in Korea found they could hit black infantry and they would always fold.
There is on line some photos of smiling black POWs captured in Korea.
I don’t know if this is true or not but HE was there at the time.


36 posted on 05/11/2018 9:37:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Luke21

My dad fought in Europe, and then was sent back to the USA to train for the Invasion of Japan.
When the bombs were dropped everyone gave a sigh of relief as they new “it” would be over before being deployed to the Pacific.


37 posted on 05/11/2018 9:41:06 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

We had just immigrated to California from Scotland while Truman was President. We adored him, and even more so when he took on his daughter’s attacker. There was a man who spoke his mind and political niceties be damned. Personally, I think President Trump is a man of his ilk, adore Trump, too.


38 posted on 05/11/2018 9:50:13 AM PDT by kiltie65
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

July 26, 1948
Executive Order 9981 was an executive order issued on July 26, 1948, by President Harry S. Truman. It abolished racial discrimination in the United States Armed Forces and eventually led to the end of segregation in the services.

Korean War/Dates
Jun 25, 1950 – Jul 27, 1953

Well before the Korean War..............

October 1950
Those who escaped envelopment and capture were forced back north. UN forces rapidly approached the Yalu River—the border with China—but in October 1950, mass Chinese forces crossed the Yalu and entered the war.


39 posted on 05/11/2018 10:00:43 AM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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To: Red Badger

My old Sgt must have been wrong. He was not the brightest one on the shelf.


40 posted on 05/11/2018 10:12:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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