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EMP Commission warns ‘blackout’ of electricity, food, water to last ‘year or longer,’ (TR)
Washington Examiner ^ | May 9, 2018 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 05/14/2018 8:37:04 AM PDT by Perseverando

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To: Perseverando

Your local utility is more interested in cramming a “Smart Meter” down your throat (and hence creating yet ANOTHER vulnerability) than in addressing this threat.


21 posted on 05/14/2018 9:04:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Perseverando

I am beginning to think that plain old acts of sabotage from sleeper cells entering the US everyday in the name of diversity combined with cyber attacks will be the way this happens. Many of our enemies best attacks have been low tech use what you have and be damned the losses as there is a greater like awaiting you in paradise. With most of the biggest transformers now made in China you can be sure they will turn the screws on us. I have no doubt that we would in the end overcome such an attack, but the cost would be great.


22 posted on 05/14/2018 9:04:48 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Manuel OKelley

Oh, OK...are you sure?


23 posted on 05/14/2018 9:06:07 AM PDT by GRRRRR (Make America Greater Than Ever Before!)
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To: laplata

>> one huge solar flare. Then the side facing the sun is affected <<

Maybe so. But even then, destruction of approximately one-half of the world’s productive capacity could set back the other half of humanity by maybe as much as hundred years.


24 posted on 05/14/2018 9:07:01 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The local utilities were forced by legislation to “cram” those smart meters out to the public. Millions per utility have been spent on that nonsense.


25 posted on 05/14/2018 9:08:22 AM PDT by afterhoursarmory
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26 posted on 05/14/2018 9:10:43 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progressives, or Democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!)
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To: Hawthorn; Manuel OKelley; The Pack Knight

In before the Carrington Event deniers!


27 posted on 05/14/2018 9:13:38 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Perseverando; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ..
Acknowledge your vulnerability, or ignore it ( Your choice)
Vulnerability of the electrical grid, which remains unresolved between business expense ($$), or government intervention to protect society.
The government will protect its' own, firstly; citizenry will be left on its own
A skeptic, or a believer ?

“A long-term outage owing to EMP could disable most critical supply chains, leaving the U.S. population living in conditions similar to centuries past,
prior to the advent of electric power,” said the July 2017 report provided Secrets."

“In the 1800s, the U.S. population was less than 60 million, and those people had many skills and assets necessary for survival without today’s infrastructure.
An extended blackout today could result in the death of a large fraction of the American people
through the effects of societal collapse, fuel shortage, disease, and starvation.
While national planning and preparation for such events could help mitigate the damage,
few such actions are currently underway or even being contemplated,” added the executive summary."

"I'm here from the government, and I'm here to help."
Right ! Tell that to the people of Puerto Rico, if you need a recent example.
Do you have the necessary skills to survive a year,... or more ?
Water, food, shelter, transportation, communications, medications, ability to defend yourself and family,
necessary skills training, or a work around the loss of electricity ?
If you can't protect it, ..you don't own it !
YMMV !

28 posted on 05/14/2018 9:14:39 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Perseverando; Tilted Irish Kilt; null and void; aragorn; azishot; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; ...
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PING.

EMP Commission warns ‘blackout’ of electricity, food, water to last ‘year or longer

29 posted on 05/14/2018 9:17:18 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

You are right as it would be very much like Puerto Rico many times over and if they thought the delay and the slowness of the recovery was great in Puerto Rico imagine what it would be like with everyone is pretty much in the same boat and can offer little to no help to their neighbors.


30 posted on 05/14/2018 9:19:50 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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31 posted on 05/14/2018 9:22:47 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Hawthorn

That’s right.

The Deep State, Gaia worshipers/Environmentalists, et al would welcome such an event.


32 posted on 05/14/2018 9:24:32 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Perseverando
Seems awfully handwavy about E3 (affects the grid): http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2473-EMP_Commission-7MB.pdf They say a nuclear burst EMP would be greater intensity than solar E3. However other sources point out that solar is longer duration allowing higher voltages to build up. The E1 and E2 pulses are mainly speculative. The chances of a hostile nuclear actor getting the E3 part right are minimal.
33 posted on 05/14/2018 9:24:33 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Mariner

Puerto Rico is still in bad shape and huge resources have been spent on fixing that minor disruption.


34 posted on 05/14/2018 9:27:14 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Hawthorn
Might take decades to recover.

Or hours like in March 1989. "Geomagnetic storms represent an approximation to an E3-induced voltage effect. The experience to date is of events that may be orders of magnitude smaller in scope and less severe than that expected from an EMP" From the report: http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2473-EMP_Commission-7MB.pdf page 43. That's pretty iffy and hand-wavy. They don't explain, for example, how the widespread nature of the EMP causes more damage. It will certainly cause a wide outage. But they do not specifically state what long term damage is caused. E3 is slow and protective devices should protect transformers (p.33) so they resort to handwaving about E1 and E2.

35 posted on 05/14/2018 9:33:12 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: laplata
"Puerto Rico is still in bad shape and huge resources have been spent on fixing that minor disruption."

Consider also the millions that have self-evacuated lessening the burden. Where would the Vastly greater refugees from such an event evacuate and how?
36 posted on 05/14/2018 9:33:12 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Mr. K
WHERE THE **** DID THEY SPEND $4 TRILLION?????

Iran and North Korea...

37 posted on 05/14/2018 9:35:13 AM PDT by null and void (Urban "food deserts," are caused by "climate change" in urban customers' attitudes (H/T niteowl77))
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Spam.


38 posted on 05/14/2018 9:38:17 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: laplata
Puerto Rico is still in bad shape and huge resources have been spent on fixing that minor disruption.

That's an easy one. It's the same reason that PR had a three day outage without any storm: http://energia.pr.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Expert-Report-Revenue-Requirements-Fisher-and-Horowitz-Revised-20161123.pdf There's no valid comparison to the mainland US grid.

39 posted on 05/14/2018 9:39:05 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: laplata

While I’m not a denier, I do believe that the EMP thing isn’t well understood.

Like someone mentioned here, it would take dozens (Way more, in my analysis) and they have to be repeated several times to get full coverage.

But you don’t need an EMP To get this effect. You need a computer virus.

We don’t need to look for missiles in the sky from another country. We need to look at some dude in his basement writing the perfect virus. And that is WAY more scary.


40 posted on 05/14/2018 9:40:39 AM PDT by Celerity
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