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White House: Trump doesn't agree that Jews going to hell
Washington Examiner ^ | May 14, 2018

Posted on 05/14/2018 12:46:00 PM PDT by deplorableindc

White House deputy press secretary Raj Shah said Monday that President Trump does not agree with a controversial pastor's claim that Jews are going to hell.

"I haven't seen those remarks, but obviously those aren't remarks that the president agrees with," Shah said at the daily White House press briefing.

Shah was specifically responding to Dallas megachurch leader Robert Jeffress' remark that adherents of various religions will go to hell for not holding a specific view of Jesus. Jeffress said a prayer Monday at the opening of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; News/Current Events
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To: ealgeone

I am living; rent free; on someone’s homepage.


81 posted on 05/15/2018 6:40:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: onedoug

I awaiting teaching; or should I merely read and form my own opinion?


82 posted on 05/15/2018 6:41:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

NOTE: If you have something negative to say to me, please say it publicly and not on a private message.


83 posted on 05/15/2018 6:42:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone; miss marmelstein
But this does seem to be a pattern with you....perhaps the open forums are suited for you.

This thread was posted under News/Activism, not Religion ...


84 posted on 05/15/2018 6:44:39 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Angels27

I hope God doesn’t agree with me, because I think I suck.


85 posted on 05/15/2018 6:44:57 PM PDT by Lazamataz (What America needs is more Hogg control.)
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To: Elsie

There should at least be a royalty!


86 posted on 05/15/2018 6:51:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Elsie
That's OK.

Projection like that gives such insight into a person's real character.

Don't forget...

Luke 6:45 The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.

87 posted on 05/15/2018 7:02:39 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: deplorableindc
Okay . . . we all know that I'm a Noahide and that I consider chrstianity to be a false religion. BUT . . . the idea that only explicitly "born again" chrstians don't go to hell is simply traditional and foundational Fundamentalist Protestant doctrine. We are getting to a point where everyone is going to be forced to pay lip service to the ridiculous idea that all religions are equally valid, because they're all creations of the human religious imagination.

I am well aware that devout chrstians believe I am going to hell, just as they know that I consider them ineligible for the World to Come because they aren't practicing Noahides. That doesn't bother me and I'm sure it doesn't bother them either. We can't let orthodox religious positions be branded as "bigotry." We can't do it!

What babies we're all becoming!

88 posted on 05/15/2018 7:11:41 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: sockmonkey

Okay, thank you for an attempt at clarification.


89 posted on 05/15/2018 7:40:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: sockmonkey

Thanks for the clip.

IMO Jesus did fulfill prophecy. Certain signs mentioned in the Bible do seem to verify Jesus as the sacrificial lamb.

The curtain closing off the Most Hole Place in the temple, was torn top to bottom at the death of Jesus Christ.

As for Him claiming to be the Messiah or not, I think it’s up to the people to determined for themselves if He fulfilled the prophecies or not. I believe he did.

There’s probably other things He didn’t claim either.

That doesn’t mean the Jews of the day should have been forgiven for not recognizing Him for who He was.

He gave them enough to know what His mission was.


90 posted on 05/15/2018 7:48:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Rome2000

your mistake, not me saying so , it is God saying it. I just quoted him. got a problem with that, best keep it to yourself.


91 posted on 05/15/2018 9:14:47 PM PDT by fish hawk (MACA Make America Christian Again)
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To: af_vet_1981

N/A is still an OPEN forum.


92 posted on 05/16/2018 4:17:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz; we ALL do!


93 posted on 05/16/2018 4:18:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
... the idea that only explicitly "born again" chrstians don't go to hell is simply traditional and foundational Fundamentalist Protestant doctrine.

Oh?

It appears the CATHOLICS had this idea for a LOOOOOOOONG time before we Prots ever appeared on the scene:

John 3:1-21 English Standard Version (ESV)

1 Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews.
2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.”
3 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.  7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

9 Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?” 
10 Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things? 11 Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you do not receive our testimony. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

94 posted on 05/16/2018 4:27:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DoughtyOne

My understanding is that the Talmud was written because the Jewish leaders realized that the old system of oral tradition could not be maintained; and that a component of the Talmud is a written compendium of the oral Torah.

Wikipedia has a fairly thorough explanation of the Talmud at the following link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud


95 posted on 05/16/2018 8:37:11 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: deplorableindc

Can’t stop laughing — thanks!


96 posted on 05/16/2018 3:13:43 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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Not sure it was necessary to respond to Mitt's off topic statement. Why didn't the media ask about Mormans.

97 posted on 05/18/2018 5:31:38 AM PDT by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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To: Redwood71

There are reports of Muslims converting. There will be a remnant of all peoples, nationalities, languages, tribes, etc.


98 posted on 05/18/2018 5:51:06 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I don’t agree that there’s such a thing as eternal damnation, let alone that anyone is ever condemned to it. There’s purgatory, and there’s limbo, and then there’s paradise, and none of them are permanent. I could care less whether Trump agrees with my conception of the hereafter, and I could care less whether a pastor does believe in hell and that it’s my ultimate destination. Everyone can agree to disagree. Politics does not encompass spiritual questions like that, and since Trump is, in the final analysis acting as a politician, his opinions about hell and who will or won’t be an inmate there, assuming that it exists, are irrelevant.


99 posted on 05/18/2018 6:09:08 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: huldah1776

Have you ever seen or had someone you know tell you of any muslims that have converted? Reports don’t mean anything to me. Anyone can report anything.

The only thing consistent with the muslim “religion” is that they support either through ignoring or actively supporting the cause they have of taking over the world And killing everyone they think they should to get to that effect is their answer and has been since the 13th century. And it reaches a mute point when they kill their own, and expect their own to kill themselves, for their cause. That’s the only working part of the conversion transaction you can trust.

There are over 1.6 billion of them scattered around the world. It is the second largest religion out there so it will take a whole lot of converting to make a difference in how many innocents will die. I don’t see it soon.

rwood


100 posted on 05/18/2018 6:51:23 AM PDT by Redwood71
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