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To: DiogenesLamp
This is what I expect from you, and why I don't take you seriously.

Truth hurt?

Rather than saying "most likely because it's BS", you should be finding the quotes from the various cabinet members that refute it.

But your post is BS not because the quotes were made up, I believe that they are all somewhat accurate, but because you neglected to mention that quotes are from the cabinet meeting on March 15 or 16, and that at the March 29 cabinet meeting the vote to resupply Sumter and retain Pickens was 4 to 2 in favor. But instead your intention was to deliberately mislead and make it look like Lincoln ignored his cabinet. He didn't and your implication that he did is the BS.

Of course this point isn't something trivial like the origin of "sold down the river", so I can see why you have no interest in tracking it down.

But as with the earlier discussion, you are either being deliberately misleading or rather dense.

47 posted on 05/16/2018 5:07:28 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Truth hurt?

I would say by your reactions that it does, but it isn't however hurting me.

But your post is BS not because the quotes were made up, I believe that they are all somewhat accurate, but because you neglected to mention that quotes are from the cabinet meeting on March 15 or 16, and that at the March 29 cabinet meeting the vote to resupply Sumter and retain Pickens was 4 to 2 in favor

The point in question was whether the cabinet believed such an action would cause a war. You are conflating a decision to do it anyway as the cabinet having changed it's mind about causing a war.

The reality is that the cabinet still believed it would cause a war, but now a majority was in favor of doing it anyway. (They all served at the pleasure of a President who wanted a war.)

On the "cause a war", the cabinet didn't change it's mind. It is your attempt to portray it's vote on doing the mission as having changed it's mind about causing a war is the dishonest misrepresentation of the event.

65 posted on 05/17/2018 5:52:58 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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