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Spinning a Crossfire Hurricane: The Times on the FBI’s Trump Investigation
https://www.nationalreview.com ^ | May 17, 2018 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 05/17/2018 9:58:39 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

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1 posted on 05/17/2018 9:58:39 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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It’s a gas gas gas.


2 posted on 05/17/2018 10:00:57 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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But that’s not even the most important of the buried ledes. What the Times story makes explicit, with studious understatement, is that the Obama administration used its counterintelligence powers to investigate the opposition party’s presidential campaign.

Of course they did. They had to. Losing to PDJT was a national security threat.

It's perfectly obvious that when Democrats are in charge of any part of government, they think they literally own that part of government. When Hillary ran the State Department, she owned the State Department, and she owned every employee of the State Department, along with every record, document, and computer of the State Department.

3 posted on 05/17/2018 10:08:43 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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“Obviously, Russia was trying to meddle in the election, mainly through cyber-espionage — hacking.”

I haven’t seen proof of this. Or is this the facebook “news” stories seen by 6 thousand people?

So no it’s not obvious to me.


4 posted on 05/17/2018 10:12:12 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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If Russia was meddling in the election, wouldn’t Obama know about it?


5 posted on 05/17/2018 10:13:22 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Para-Ord.45

If a story is not reported on 95% of the Media, did it still happen?


6 posted on 05/17/2018 10:18:41 AM PDT by heights
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Who goes to jail?


7 posted on 05/17/2018 10:21:41 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (President Trump: Please Fire Sessions!!! You have nothing to lose.)
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If Russia was meddling in the election, wouldn’t Obama know about it?

The FBI was busy spying on the Trump campaign trying to find a crime.

8 posted on 05/17/2018 10:22:24 AM PDT by Flick Lives (Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation.)
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That’s besides the point I made. The article states that it was obvious that the Russians were interfering with our election. I have yet to see definitive proof of this charge. Just vague statements.


9 posted on 05/17/2018 10:22:42 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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10 posted on 05/17/2018 10:23:23 AM PDT by nutmeg (If Jim Acosta acts up in Singapore, will he get caned?)
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FBI Officials Admit They Spied On Trump Campaign:

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/17/10-key-takeaways-from-new-york-times-error-ridden-defense-of-fbi-spying-on-trump-campaign/


11 posted on 05/17/2018 10:24:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Democrats are having trouble with their MAMA campaign, (Make America Mexico Again), versus MAGA!)
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Depends on how you define “interfering”. If it’s vote tampering, then they haven’t even been accused of it. If it’s retweeting fake news stories, then yeah, they probably did it . . . along with half of the world’s population.


12 posted on 05/17/2018 10:25:12 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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If it’s retweeting fake news stories, then yeah, they probably did it . . . along with half of the world’s population.


If that is all they have then they have nothing. So again my statement stands. There is no obvious Russian tampering with the election.


13 posted on 05/17/2018 10:26:56 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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Thanks to Travis Mcgee for the above.

14 posted on 05/17/2018 10:27:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Democrats are having trouble with their MAMA campaign, (Make America Mexico Again), versus MAGA!)
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A sitting President abusing his powers to spy on an opposition party candidate.

Good thing they gave their crime a memorable name.


15 posted on 05/17/2018 10:29:26 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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They do it every election. So yes it is obvious. What is a crime is the democrats weapoized this info against the US.


16 posted on 05/17/2018 10:32:38 AM PDT by for-q-clinton
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17 posted on 05/17/2018 10:36:05 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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The Anti-Trump media is telling the public that any back channel contacts between the Trump team and Russians before Trump's inauguration is proof of a crime. And yet they celebrated the fact that Obama was doing this with the Iranian - before he was even elected:

HuffingtonPost:

"My Life as a Secret Back Channel in Iran" Excerpt:

"In the case of Obama, the secret contacts began during the election campaign of 2008, when William Miller, a former diplomat and staff director of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, flew back and forth between Washington and Tehran. He was an ideal choice: an Obama loyalist, a believer in the possibility of a US-Iranian modus vivendi, and a trained diplomat..."

18 posted on 05/17/2018 10:36:19 AM PDT by drpix
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The silent coup gets its voice.


19 posted on 05/17/2018 10:36:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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It doesn't look like the NYT spin fooled many people - we were discussing every point in this article on FR yesterday. There are two take-homes, first:

So, the FBI did not open a criminal investigation. Instead, the bureau opened a counterintelligence investigation and hoped that evidence of crimes committed by Trump officials would emerge.

And worse, in their absence the FBI attempted to manufacture them. The second take-home is that this FBI counter-intelligence investigation broached a number of fairly significant bounds: operating in a foreign country, entrapment, and assiduously hiding the details from Congressional oversight. This is not even yet to address the connection to FISA abuses.

One thing about the intelligence business is that there is often a very fine line between "improper" and clearly and outrageously illegal, and one of the functions of an ethical operator - and that is, after all, one reason we give them security clearances - is to steer carefully clear of the latter. When one gleefully steers into the criminal he or she needs to go. And that appears to encompass no small part of the entire leadership structure of the CIA and the FBI. If we don't take this seriously, they won't.

20 posted on 05/17/2018 10:40:54 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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