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Bartender arrested 2 years after customer killed teen in DUI crash
KHOU.com (Houston) ^ | 17 May 2018 | Lauren Talarico

Posted on 05/19/2018 11:59:56 AM PDT by Drew68

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To: cardinal4

Or the guy who mixes it with other drugs.


41 posted on 05/19/2018 1:00:46 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Drew68

What about suing the manufacturers, the winemakers, the old redeye makers, and on goes the lawyers latest gold mine. Same as tobacco.


42 posted on 05/19/2018 1:02:28 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: Mr. Blond

They’re trying that already. Crazy.

Unless the customer is falling down drunk, many times you wouldn’t know. Same with the gun purchaser who takes out his wife’s boyfriend. The shop keeper isn’t a mind reader or fortune teller.


43 posted on 05/19/2018 1:04:49 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Beagle8U

It generally is not a law, but Supreme Court rulings.

They ruled that prosecutors could lie to people they are prosecuting, they can recruit false witnesses, they can have personal conflicts of interest in the case, they can repeatedly prosecute the person they are persecuting, as long as they do not take the case all the way to trial.

All of this actually happened in a case that the Supreme Court ruled on, and they said keeping the Prosecutor immune from lawsuit was more important, because, otherwise, prosecutors would be sued by everyone they prosecuted...

http://www.scotusblog.com/2009/11/how-broad-is-prosecutorial-immunity/


44 posted on 05/19/2018 1:09:32 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Drew68
Straight out of the nico-nazi playbook that eventually got tobacco products banned from all bars, restaurants, and whatever............

I've always said that the greatest destroyer of lives and families in this country has been alcohol consumption but yet the nico-nazis focused on the tobacco industry due to personal bias against the public use of the product.

Since Washington is filled with non smoking alcoholics, it's easy to see why big tobacco was the target rather than the beer or alcohol industry.........

You don't have to ban a product to achieve your goal of eliminating it, simply make it impossible for the product to be sold.......

As an aside, my brother was killed by an underage drunk driver, not by tobacco..........

45 posted on 05/19/2018 1:10:29 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Mother nature is a serial killer......)
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To: Drew68
The liquor violation charge Ortiz is facing is a misdemeanor, but she’s also facing a third-degree felony charge for using someone else’s social security number.

An illegal bartender?

46 posted on 05/19/2018 1:10:42 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Drew68
“We are going to hold everyone responsible that had anything to do with these crashes going forward,” Teare said.

Was the driver an illegal alien?

47 posted on 05/19/2018 1:11:15 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Drew68

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This will not hold up in a proper court.
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48 posted on 05/19/2018 1:13:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Drew68

Good. BASSET training covers this. So do the Dram Laws.

The establishment and its owners are in real civil legal jeopardy here, too. I hope the family of the deceased sues them into bankruptcy.

L


49 posted on 05/19/2018 1:13:38 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Drew68

Prosecutorial overreach the gift that keeps on giving


50 posted on 05/19/2018 1:14:48 PM PDT by wardaddy (Reward for young runaway goes by Kanye fancies hisself a poet...if seen contact his overseer@DNC.org)
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To: editor-surveyor

“This will not hold up in a proper court.”

Oh yes it will. They’re called Dram Laws and they exist in all 50 states.

L


51 posted on 05/19/2018 1:15:19 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Drew68

This absolutely should not be in criminal court. But if someone wants to sue you, they probably should have that right?


52 posted on 05/19/2018 1:16:40 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Zhang Fei
If bar owners file a class action for civil rights violations, this could cost the city’s taxpayers a lot of money.

You're obviously not a lawyer........What civil rights were being violated?

53 posted on 05/19/2018 1:20:36 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Mother nature is a serial killer......)
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To: Drew68

If you continue to serve a drunk you are responsible


54 posted on 05/19/2018 1:21:30 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: MCF
How was she to know he was driving?

I don't think it matters. In most places, it's against the law to serve someone who is "visibly intoxicated" whether they're driving or not. And since bartenders do not have devices at their disposal to physically measure intoxication, they have to make a judgment call.

Oh, and they have to operate a business that is dependent upon selling alcohol to people.

55 posted on 05/19/2018 1:21:50 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Zhang Fei

They would lose. Unfortunately this has been the law since the 80s. Thanks, MADD.


56 posted on 05/19/2018 1:24:27 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Drew68
“We are going to hold everyone responsible that had anything to do with these crashes going forward,” Teare said.

Translation: The Chief of the Harris County Vehicular Crimes Division would really like to be Harris County DA and he wants you to know his name. So what if some bartenders living paycheck to paycheck get squashed on the way?

57 posted on 05/19/2018 1:25:21 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: eyeamok

I ‘vowed’ to never listen to ANYONE in authority way back when ‘they’ had us climbing under desks in case of nuclear attack.

About 5 minutes into my ABC class in Navy Boot Camp I vowed to disregard ANYTHING -that I personally didn’t verify- that an ‘adult’ said.

On that subject remember back in the ATests after WWII that the ‘proper’ procedure for the crew was to make sure they wore dark glasses, buttoned sleeves and collars and turn your back to the blast.

YEAH RIGHT!!!!


58 posted on 05/19/2018 1:25:53 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""Liberals suffer from PTDS -PRESIDENT TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME")
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To: Lurker
BASSET training covers this.

I remember this training when I worked a beverage booth for a fundraiser at a NFL game.

It pretty much went: "Don't serve people who are drunk, count every drink you sell everyone in the stadium, and beware of alcoholics who are good at feigning sobriety. Oh, and if you screw this up, you can go to prison."

It's a wonder there's anyone willing to serve booze these days.

59 posted on 05/19/2018 1:26:31 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: FreeReign

I’m six five and 240 and id be drunk on 5 drinks in one hour but I don’t drink

I detest drinking beyond one or two drinks

Nothing I dislike more

Brings out the worst in humanity

To me it’s as destructive as amphetamines or cocaine abuse

Yet legal and celebrated


60 posted on 05/19/2018 1:26:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (Reward for young runaway goes by Kanye fancies hisself a poet...if seen contact his overseer@DNC.org)
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