Posted on 07/16/2018 10:56:32 AM PDT by Pinkbell
Unless I'm missing it, I'm surprised there is no thread for the Trump meeting with Putin. The media (and even some of Trump allies) are going ballistic.
Trump said that both sides have contributed to the atmosphere, and while he brought up the meddling, he seemed to be open to Putin's denial and suggestion to allow Mueller to question his people in exchange for them being allowed to question Bill Browder & others.
Trump questioned the intelligence agencies with regard to the Clinton investigation, for not getting the server of the DNC, and the bias of people like Strozk. He then forcefully denied collusion (which I believe) and said he felt this was an attempt to undermine his election victory.
Trump has definitely tied this Mueller investigation to his election victory. He doesn't seem to have separated out the verdict against the Russians for meddling with the accusations of collusion. I think he believes this entire investigation is being done to undermine his victory and get him impeached. With the sheer bias in the intelligence agencies, I understand his skepticism between how they handled the Clinton probe to how this has gone one with the investigation of him with the bias, dossier, spies, unmaskings, Mueller's team of Dems, and so forth.
That said, the media is in an uproar. John Brennan said:
"Donald Trumps press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of high crimes & misdemeanors. It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trumps comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???"
Statements like that are why Trump doesn't trust the intelligence agencies by the way.
Anderson Cooper compared him to Rainman and said it was one of the most "disgraceful performances" he's ever seen from a President.
Neil Cavuto on Fox called it "digusting", and Ed Henry thought he should have called Putin out for the hacking.
Anyway, there have been people who have criticized him who are Republicans like Sasse, Flake, and some mild criticism from Graham.
One that did surprise me considering her dad is Ambassador to Russia, is Abby Huntsman. She Tweeted, "No negotiation is worth throwing your own people and country under the bus."
There are Republicans who have defended him. Issa did per CNN, and CNN said many they talked to in the House defended him in light of the FBI bias. CNN in general is having a meltdown. I literally was laughing while watching the hysteria.
For the record, I think it's entirely possible Russia hacked the DNC and Podesta. However, without the DNC servers, I am somewhat skeptical, and as I said before, I understand his skepticism between how they handled the Clinton probe to how this has gone one with the investigation of him with the bias, dossier, spies, unmaskings, Mueller's team of Dems, and so forth.
I don't trust Mueller at this point. There has been no guilty verdict or trial yet. He certainly has put forth his evidence of hacking, although not collusion. Here's what he could do - it's possible he simultaneously didn't collude but that Russia was involved in the hacking. However, I think Trump has linked the two, and that will earn him criticism.
There are a lot of calls from the left and media and some establishment Republicans of criticism if not treason. We can post reaction here and discuss it from all sides.
Who is Abby Huntsman?
A close friend of Abby Normal?
Abby who?
Abby, Normal?
They would NOT have been satisfied unless Trump punched Putin in the face in front of EVERYONE..that would have made them super happy
What in hell are the liberals whining about?
Do they want to have a war with Russia?
I’m serious.
If not then they need to STFU about the POTUS meeting with the Russian leader or else they need to come right out and demand that we go to war.
These people are so dangerously insane. I worry for my children should one of these nutcases ever sit in the White House again!
Fox and Friends Host and daughter of John Huntsman (Trump’s Ambassador to Russia).
I just watched the press conference. I wasn’t alive obviously for Washington and Lincoln, and was barely sentient for Reagan, but I came away thinking, man, President Trump is going to go down as the greatest President in United States history!
LOL, best scene in that movie.
Some Fox News reporterette whose father is the former Gov. of Utah and now US Russian Ambassador.
They would have said it was orchestrated like in fake wrestling to try to deflect them from the trail of collusion.
Whybee Normal’s sister.
Codepink Bell is back.
I’m honestly not sure what their endgame is. When Trump went after Putin and bombed Syria the second time, the left had a crap fit and claimed he was going to start World War III. I don’t know what their solution is. More sanctions? Further isolation? It’s possible isolation would make things worse instead of better.
Abby is a full blown RINO, yo....just saying.............
Oh, the dark haired girl? I usually see her as I walk through the living room and glance at the TV. My husband watches F n F I gave up on FOX years ago.
Slimy John Huntsman’s daughter? That explains a lot.
Thanks. :-)
Codepink Bell has had a series of victories, though:
1) I said that Trump’s campaign was in trouble in late spring of 2016. I was attacked. Literally the next day, Trump fired Lewandowki which means apparently he thought so too.
2) I said that Trump’s campaign was in trouble in late summer of 2016. I was attacked. Not long after, Manafort was gone and Trump brought in the winning team of Bannon and Conway which means he apparently saw trouble too.
3) I said it looks like Roy Moore is in trouble. I was attacked. Roy Moore lost.
4) I said the child separation at the border is a problem optically whether you can argue the reasoning behind the policy is substantive or not. I was attacked by some. The next day Trump ended the policy.
I’m not even attacking Trump here, but I am pointing out very clearly that the media establishment and left are attacking him has having a terrible performance, selling out to Putin, and accusing him of treason. Some Republicans are going after him too. That’s newsworthy whether you agree or not.
Abby Huntsman is a total lightweight, so any criticism from her amounts to absolutely nothing.
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